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| 14/7/2008 | 16:45 | DARWEN GROUP - making low-emission buses | 301 |
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Posted at 14/7/2008 16:45 by m.t.glass DARWEN (DHP) IS NOW OPTARE (OPE)and has a renamed thread at |
Posted at 08/7/2008 20:43 by greenisgood This was posted over on the TAN thread by Barnsey and hope he doesn't mind me copying onto here where is just as relevant:-------------------- Darwen hit by Tanfield fallout... The lawyers are extremely happy... Another nasty episode in the life of the City... -------------------- Dear Reader, It was June 20th and Andrew Brian was 'delighted.' He had just announced a deal whereby Darwen Holdings, of which he is chief executive, would acquire Jamesstan Investments, the holding company for the Optare coach-building business. By combining Optare, with its expertise in low-emission, hybrid engine technology with the traditional diesel-engine bus manufacturing skills of Darwen, the 'combined product suite' Brian said, 'is expected is expected to deliver a complete vehicle solution to its customers, and will have at its core a lightweight, diesel-engined vehicle with a low emission hybrid variant.' OK, that makes sense to me and clearly it did to investors also. Having gone around the City presenting what he described as 'fantastic news for investors' Brian was 'delighted with the level of institutional support.' In consequence of this enthusiasm Darwen had no difficulty persuading investors to stump up the £16m that it needed to fund the deal, through the issue of 40m new shares at 40p. That was just a fortnight ago, and within that short space of time the enthusiasm of these long-sighted institutional investors has apparently waned. Because in a shocking announcement last evening Brian revealed that the price at which the new shares were being sold was to be slashed from 40p to 30p. Now 53.3m new shares are to be issued, representing 49% of the company. It looks as if the institutional investors, having given their word that they would buy shares at 40p have changed their mind and demanded a price of 30p. Why? Darwen is still solid The only good reason would be deterioration of the business prospects of Darwen, but this is clearly not the case. If the general economic climate does not look too bright today, it is hardly any different from two weeks ago and in any case coach-building is a long-term business, little affected by recession, and the shift towards green engines promises a sustained period of demand. This much is accepted by Brian who, commenting upon the decline of Darwen's share price since June 20th, 'knows of no reason within the business for the decline.' No. The real reason why institutional investors have reneged upon their promise to pay 40p per share has nothing to do with Darwen and everything to do with Tanfield. The mastermind behind Darwen is the same Roy Stanley, who in a series of deals expanded Tanfield rapidly in the areas of electric vehicles and powered access. Now Tanfield has been hit by manufacturing problems at its electric vehicles division and a downturn in demand for powered access machinery. Its cash position does not appear to be as good as was thought and the shares have crashed spectacularly. To me this looks like another case of a small company that has expanded on too many fronts too quickly, and has run into a recession. Tanfield's institutional investors only have themselves to blame for financing its helter-skelter expansion, but are now trying to lay off the blame wherever they can. So now we hear calls for an investigation into Tanfield's accounting and hear accusations that Tanfield misled the market. This is all too familiar in circumstances when fund managers who have just lost millions of their customers' valuable pounds will say anything rather than admit that they might have made a mistake. Roy Stanley stands accused of building up the hopes of investors, and also of selling out his shares last year close to the top of the market. As to the former Tanfield's public announcements have always been full and detailed, the numbers in the accounts are there for all to see, and the company has made every effort to build relationships with the City. The fact is that fund managers, having enjoyed a ride in one of Tanfield's electric vans, got carried away by the excitement of green technology and failed to properly appreciate the difficulties of converting this into a major profitable business. In fact, Stanley has taken a back seat at Tanfield for the last year or so, handing over the reins to forty year old chief executive Darren Kell, forty-five year old finance director Charles Brooks and forty-two year old operations director Brendan Campbell. There is not a lot of experience here in managing a large multinational manufacturing business a point that Tanfield's shareholders might reflect upon. Institutional retribution Stanley sold 8.5m shares last summer at 163p, as part of a very enthusiastically received placing. But the implication that he sold these shares because 'he knew something' just does not hold water. Stanley still holds 19.6m shares in Tanfield, and as I pointed out in my newsletter Red Hot Penny Shares, he also sold five million at 19p, before the great rise of the share price got under way. Anyway, that is Tanfield... but what bothers me is that the institutions have seen fit to take retribution on Darwen. Having said that they would pay 40p for shares in Darwen they should have been as good as their word. Incidentally, Stanley and Brian both could be accused of benefiting from the lower price as they will be buying shares in the placing for themselves. But before anyone misconstrues that, let us at least be clear that their interests would have been far better served by the 40p price. Before the deal Stanley in particular held 50% of Darwen shares and the revised terms are a particularly unwelcome dilution to his interest in the company. And this applies to all other Darwen shareholders. Rather than admitting the Tanfield factor and saying that those investors who promised to buy shares at 40p have backed off and demanded 30p, Andrew Brian has explained the revised terms of the share issue by citing 'extraordinary market conditions' and a desire to 'ensure a strong long-term partnership with our investors.' That may suit those who are buying into the placing at 30p but the price cut unequivocally damages the interests of existing shareholders of Darwen, including many private investors, some of whom may have reckoned that if the institutions were willing to pay 40p per share they were happy to follow suit. This is another nasty episode in the life of the City. Another instance where the word of investors has not proved to be their bond; another instance in which the interests of private investors have been trampled upon with utter disregard; and another stain on the increasingly damaged reputation of AIM. Regards, Tom Bulford for The Penny Sleuth |
Posted at 02/7/2008 11:47 by stud69 My guys tell me that both St Helens Capital where Stanley has a major shareholding and TAN under big investigation from FSA it is bound to spread to DHPThere may be trouble ahead............. so get your head down and take care with DHP pity as it had good possibilities it has to be a sell as there will be a clause that the listing can be pulled |
Posted at 27/6/2008 19:15 by topvest Tanfield is being shorted to death like many other companies at the moment. The FSA need to sort out this volatility caused by rampant shorters. I would be very surprised if there is any major bad news on Tanfield next week, but we will have to wait and see. I was looking for an opportunity to get into Tanfield and so I will consider buying their when the drop stabilises and the situation becomes clearer. Given he had such a massive stake that had 100 bagged or something you can't really blame him for selling; he would have had to have been an idiot not to have top-sliced to be honest... He only sold 5m out of 25m and so I suspect he is just as unhappy with the share price developments as anyone else involved! |
Posted at 27/6/2008 18:50 by sharethelovearound rather surprised at the lack of comment on the link between the erstwhile Mr Stanley and his previous creation, Tanfield. He sold a ton of shares at 160p last year at the same time as their last acquisition was announced (although you had to look hard to find it as they hid it in the documentation rather than announcing it as a Director Dealing in a separate RNS) and the price today closed at sub-30p. My only thought is that while you may see some impressive share price performance with Darwen, don't be greedy because there is clearly potential for this vehicle also to prove to be a house of cards. Take profits along the way and watch carefully for Director Dealings as they may not always be disclosed in a transparent fashion. |
Posted at 24/6/2008 08:39 by bearraider MTG - not sure I can see where the orders for Darwen buses are suddenly going to come from, they said historically 3 a week, now 6 a week (doubled production) and aiming for 10 a week by the end 2008. Unless the market place has suddenly expanded then Darwen seems to expect to take almost 10% of the existing total of the 4000 market on top of what it was already doing before, by the year end. Will the other UK bus companies (and the EU ones) just surrender mkt share that easily?The other side to this is why was Optare available for sale - unprofitable? low profits? falling sales, cash flow problems. The share price seems to be heading down to the placement price, it will provide opp for the PI to get in on similar terms as the bigger boys - (hope that works out better than at TAN). Wonder if DHP is going to worry about how the city sees it like TAN seems to, I would have thought it's small size and Mkt cap would not make that necessary, at present anyway. |
Posted at 21/6/2008 13:40 by the beef Stud: My understanding is that all docs will be made available and that the admission doc which goes to shareholders contains all the details of the deal. There are no "Smoke and mirrors". I understand that it is a simple strategy of putting both businesses together to drive out synergies and to radically change the method of manufacture which I know Stanley believes is inefficient throughout the industry. As regards Stanley taking £8 million last year people forget that the business was brought to the market with a 10p share price and that subsequent to the placing at £1.63p the price of the shares went to over £2. Lots of people have made money on this stock both as it rose and as it has fallen in price. I also know that what was left of the money after tax has been used for significant charitable work and to invest in and continue to fund a number of start ups such as Darwen. I suggest you look at examples such as LB Holdings, DataSMS, TYI, etc MT: 2007 was a bad year for bus manufacturers because of the lack of availability of Euro 4 compliant engines. This resulted in a reduction in registrations. I would be sceptical of stats related to the market particularly from SMMT as they are notoriously inaccurate. The UK Bus market runs at an average of about 4000 buses per year. Of this total about 1000 are double deck and about 2000 single deck or midi buses. The combined group of Darwen/Optare will have about 25% of the market. |
Posted at 20/6/2008 18:49 by stud69 BearThanks I suspect that he and his fellow directors have put in £650k at the placing price and I have now had time to look at the announcement, (but it won't be really clear until we receive the full document) I think that Darwen have agreed to buy Optare for £15.95m in shares, AND in addition the enlarged group has agreed to raise £16m in cash to inject into the business (the fact that the two figures are so colse adds to the confusion addmitedly) "The worlds Greatest Comedian" will own around 50% of the new shares issued plus whatever part of the £650k he put in cash in association with his directors at 40P I really can't believe that he would get away with flogging a company that he should have acquired in Darwen in the first place for cash 5 minutes after he bought it "for an undisclosed sum" if he has good luck to him but he will have taken us all for suckers However even if he has accepted £15.95m in shares for the company I think that we need to be told how much he actually paid for Optare in the first place as I got the distinct impression that he paid very little, under £5m for it and most of that in a promise I don't think it very fair on shareholders if the Chairman of our company goes off and buys a company for next to nothing then flogs it to us for three times what he paid for it only 5 minutes later even if he did take payment in shares I will be coming to the Shareholders meeting to ensure we get to the bottom of this little issue Too much smoke and mirrors for my liking and whilst I fully support what looks like a good deal I don't like being legged over by our Chairman even if he is The worlds greatest comedian (WGC) |
Posted at 20/6/2008 17:47 by bearraider stud The weather has been great here for last 20 days but supposed to rain tommorrow! have pasted relevant bit The Directors believe that this is a transformational deal, and the Executive Directors have subscribed to Placing Shares worth £650,000 at the Placing Price, alongside the institutional investors. It seems very much seems like Roy has taken the cash, not sure if he is included in the execs mentioned in the RNS or not. Being charitable it may be he had to act quickly to procure Optare, to quick for DHP to raise the finance so he did it via jameston and then just sold it on at cost + expenses to DHP. |
Posted at 16/4/2008 13:55 by fugwit New to this thread so thanks to all particularly MTG for a great read. Not in yet but like the story so far.Would anyone like to hazard a guess to the following Q's. If DHP start developing their own chassis what effect will this have on margin, i.e. if buying in from scania etc they should currently be benefiting from some of scania's economies of scale. Can they produce chassis themselves and maintain or improve current margins. If I understand correctly Optare already produce their own chassis so a merger of the two would answer Q1, might it be the reason for the Optare purchase? (I will try to look at competitors tonight to see if they are outsourcing chassis production). Excuse the circumlocution, Q2. If there is a merger between dhp & optare would anyone like to hazard a guess at savings to be made across the two companies? After a brief look, it would appear dhp has a pretax margin of approx 8% so even a small %age gain through cost savings should have a decent effect. Fingers crossed for some profit taking soon to let me in (sorry). Many thanks. |
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