Cientifica Share Discussion Threads

[a.fewbob] 04/9/2014 19:38

G heat sounds like a load of nonesense.

Gas boilers are nigh on 95% efficient! In fact, if you go by the industry standards for boiler efficiency some boilers are over 100% efficient. Obviously this is a quirk caused by the way the figures are calculated but for the sake of direct comparison they need to stick with the standard in order for people to see what they are buying. An old fashioned 30 year old open flued boiler would be about 60 to 70% efficient.

Wet Underfloor heating gives you the comfort at lower temperatures that they are on about.

Weather compensated controls are common and are not steam engine technology!

Radiators heat up spaces in minutes not hours.

Electricity is dearer than gas.

Safe to say I won't be investing!

[encarter] 04/9/2014 11:31

I have written before about how industries like construction are almost unchanged by the waves of innovation in data and materials that have changed almost every other industry from pharmaceuticals to automobiles. I have also co founded a number of companies such as the Kirkstyles Innovation Group and G-Heat that use advanced materials such as graphene and other nanomaterials such as aerogels which I’m confident well help accelerate the shift away from energy hungry homes and offices to ones that are self sustaining in almost every way.

G-Heat announced today that it had received significant investment from Cientifica PLC to bring its graphene based heating to market, and the full press release is here. I was particularly taken by Martin Benson’s comment that “adding a smart thermostat [to traditional wet heating systems] is like putting a digital speedometer on a steam engine.” He is correct of course in that traditional heating systems basically take fossil fuel, burn it with varying degrees of efficiency (and this applies it both heating and hot water systems) to heat up water which then gets pumped around to heat up the space in a building. Perhaps the biggest advance over the last fifty years is that you don’t need to shovel coal into the boiler anymore, which doesn’t seem like a lot of progress to me.


The G-Heat technology works as comfort heating, which is a method that uses large areas of heating material at low temperatures to provide heat which avoids draughts, hot and cold spots. Even better, the graphene technology which G-Heat and their partners have developed means that the heating elements are thin and flexible which gives rise a wide range of design and architectural applications.

What excites me about G-Heat is the instant on and off capability which makes it an ideal partner to smart thermostats from companies such as NEST, Hive etc. As the heater is effectively a thin film there is no huge thermal mass to warm up before the heating effect is apparent so if, as suggested by NEST your car or phone lets the smart thermostat know you are on your way home, you won’t need a long commute to ensure you return to a toasty and welcoming home. Of course the energy savings are attractive too, but full integration with the Internet of Things, now that’s exciting.

The instant off is more important in commercial buildings where cooling is much more of an issue. The first couple of hours of the day require heating, but as soon as the office fills up with people and computers are switched on, for a well insulated modern building cooling is much more of an issue. For this type of application Graphene Thin Film Comfort Heating makes a lot of sense as it is simple to install compared with traditional systems.

The investment is only a start, and the company boffins are fizzing with ideas for new applications, all of which could be game changers. This could be a hot area.

[encarter] 04/9/2014 09:54

Cut out the dead wood and the new boy will be able to raise some cash.

[the stigologist] 04/9/2014 08:09

so they've lost their chief promoter

should be re-rated below 1p now

[encarter] 04/9/2014 08:03

Not any more. The elephant has left the room.

[adamoo] 29/8/2014 21:23

This is going to the dogs slow death investors need to be very careful

[ih_318421] 01/8/2014 16:48

With the placing shares admitted to AIM yesterday I would have expected Holdings RNSs today letting us know who had notifiable holdings as a result. To not have a notifiable holding would mean the shares went to new people in bundles valued at less than £15k. If that is the case, then they will all be quick buck merchants looking to take advantage of the discount to take a quick profit. The bid dropped to the placing price well before they got a chance, they will be waiting for the first opportunity to dump. Alternatively the company has just been extremely slack about putting out the RNSs and we will have to wait a bit longer to see if my prediction about Bruce Gordon taking a big chunk of the placing is correct or not.

[ih_212666] 01/8/2014 08:34

Great to see ya back in action, Slob. Give it yer best shot, this piece of junk needs all the help it can get. Whaddaya reckon Tim's next dog will be after this one goes belly up?

[yarsan] 01/8/2014 01:29

Haahhahhaha - sorry Slobberchops, rising share prices are not phenomena ANY TB related stock has ever had to deal with.

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Slobberchops 31 Jul'14 - 16:03 - 364 of 366
Wow, mini Drunkies posting too, that usually pushes the price up for some reason
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Just curious, can you name the last TB related entity that was successful?

(Careful! don't use a calculator, you'll get a "Divide By Zero" error))

[yarsan] 01/8/2014 01:22

Knowing the well documented history of TB's other scams, I'd say it's a good bet the money will find its way into some offshore company with absolutely NO evidence it actually exists beyond a Blobby PR and a cursory filing someplace.

They've already funnelled some cash/shares to Tim Haprper:



Now it's Blobby's turn. Look for an "investment" in some company already claiming to do business with a TB related entity, or in some completely unknown entity domiciled off shore without any real operating history.

[slobberchops] 31/7/2014 16:03

Wow, mini Drunkies posting too, that usually pushes the price up for some reason

[yarsan] 31/7/2014 00:18

Tim, your lawyers and NOMAD have told you to stop posting on public bulletin boards! You did so well for a while... have you been at the vino again? Who was buying (we know it wasn't YOU!)

Well, as long as you're resurrecting your various nasty lying alter egos... can you bring back "Black G0ld" as well? The fellows over in TXO are looking at 90+ percent losses and could use a pep talk. Someone to tell them how they are actually MUCH better of now than they were before you stole all their money.

[slobberchops] 30/7/2014 21:53

Didn't you bank any profit?

[ih_237920] 30/7/2014 20:17

Whoa! Welcome back Slobberchops!!

Just curious.. you still feel this way?

Slobberchops - 12 Feb 2014 - 08:47:19 - 305 of 361
Investors pretty happy and not feeling ripped off here

As a reminder, the stock was trading around 4.75 when you wrote this.

[slobberchops] 30/7/2014 17:15

More on Perpetuus and other CTFA partners

[drunken sailor] 26/7/2014 16:42

Funny how the bid dropped to the placing price hours before the placing was announced. 1.5p eh, so just half the price of the previous placing attempt at 3p that Tim B screwed up be e-mailing the presentation to all and sundry.

£100k Gross will be about £90k net and just over 20% of the company given away to raise that measly amount, Wow this first investment is going to be a real biggie. I can't wait to discover which complete loser the Tims give the money to and how much is left over to go into their own pockets. It will be interesting to see who has taken the shares. I bet Bruce Gordon took a fair chunk of them, he has been losing money on Baldwin's flops for years, but never learns.

At least it is not the short term loan as that could have turned out to be like the £50k loan Tim got at RAM that had a £10k per month fee. It would not have been that much more expensive to have taken out multiple Wonga loans.