Cloudified Share Discussion Threads

[patviera] 15/4/2016 19:44

But it is an ifAll equities areI said 30p and I was right and sold a big chunkI'm now saying we won't go above 30p unless tribunal votes in our favour or we get a settlementYou are all ramping like u all did in OxusAnd want happened there?So let's keep our feet on the groundAnd stop these stupid price tgts of 3 and 4 pds as it just ain't gonna happen

[patviera] 15/4/2016 19:32

Good blokeThis is just a tribunalTell me then why would we have to raise 5m bucks?

[goodbloke1] 15/4/2016 19:30

What do you mean another court if we win! How can that be?

[patviera] 15/4/2016 19:27

Oh dear tip banana and u will be our Monday at 23p!!All the Rampers are backWe have NOT won this tribunal case and even if we do there is another court to come and a another 5m qd to raiseSo I still think we get a settlement of 60p So 2 3 4 quid is just dreams and puffing

[top_banana1] 15/4/2016 19:19

It's Groundhog Day with him, same banal questions on a daily basis.

Good luck everyone, our speculative share will be hitting 50p+ by Wednesday, and it’s usually rallies on wave 3.

EW Wave 3 is the monstrous climb. Some people are saying 30p+, well it did spike to 32p yesterday. Start thinking 50p+ for a start.



Even half what's the estimation will do us fine, that will be around £420m and approx share price of 270p+

[weegeordie] 15/4/2016 19:04

I unfiltered pat to see what I have been missing - OMG what a twally! I can't work out whether to pity or to abhor - either way the filter is in use again.
WG

[patviera] 15/4/2016 18:59

Sorry Debbie you are right you dint predict share prices but in sure I read somewhere that you didn't think 400p was unreasonableIs your holding here big relative to your other holdings as I worry that you are too confident about us achieving a positive result and therefore that tou have forgotten that this is binary so if we don't win we are zero

[debbiegee] 15/4/2016 18:49

pat I have not mentioned any settlement prices and have asked others not to state what they think as directors could at anytime be in negotiations an we wouldnt like to short sell ourselves.
Not to give the ROI the impression shareholders would settle for XXX when directors could be holding out for XXX..
Please stop quoting me as saying prices.
I only said when yo said a price was impossible that iit was possible.
To add I dont think anybody here has ever thought or suggested that we would get the whole payout if we won.

It is YOU who thinks that you can predict prices EOD next week/month and payout with nearly every post.
[just a little different each time ]

[pb01] 15/4/2016 18:46

Interesting nicebut. Who knows you could be right.

[frak] 15/4/2016 18:37

nicebut.. agreed, what you suggest is quite possible. However I favour the explanation that ROI and their lawyers knew exactly what the potential outcome of their actions would be and they also knew that CHL would most likely cough up if they didn't pay.

So what does it matter if Churchill pays their half? There's no penalties to the ROI accept more 'adverse inference' and they've got plenty of that against them already.

I also believe that if ROI were very confident of winning the forgery hearing then they would have paid!!! To me it's a signal that they are not confident and so are making life as difficult as possible for CHL.

[goodbloke1] 15/4/2016 18:29

I have a small punt on this because I reckon it's a coin flip for the reasons I mentioned in my previous post.ROI could easily twist the legality of the documents to their advantage in my opinion claiming the ones they issued are fake but of course I hope and could be wrong.Just my opinion

[frak] 15/4/2016 18:24

parviera.. I don't think ROI will pay! They will pay in the end though when it's added to CHL's award should CHL win the case

[nicebut] 15/4/2016 18:21

Why would ROI not pay the latest $200k?

How about this for a little (wishful) thinking: OoCS talks were ongoing, maybe not going quite how the ROI wanted- IE CHL not prepared to budge or meet in the middle in any negotiation- so ROI thought they`d apply a little pressure....IE not pay the fifth instalment- ROI knowing this would have the effect of dragging out and delaying the arbitration, adding uncertainty etc

However, maybe ROI weren`t expecting CHL to pay ROI`s share quite so quickly or indeed be able/want to all??? CHL to pay up another $200k when money *was* tightish etc...clearly more money was raised and CHL paid their share very quickly along with strongly worded RNS. So ROI completely outmoved? Just thinking aloud..

Dunno but `Strange` behaviour indeed.....

[nicebut] 15/4/2016 18:21

Clearly, as I said on Wednesday- ROI must have lost face with this. So why?

[frak] 15/4/2016 18:21

I believe CHL have circumvented any delay (for now) by paying ROI's chunk!

[patviera] 15/4/2016 18:20

Agreed frakFar too much excitement about this weeks RNSNot a factorThey will pay!!

[goodbloke1] 15/4/2016 18:19

How is the judge or arbitration panel going to know the difference between genuine or fake documents?The government could easily question the legality of any documents they issued previously saying they were false when in fact we accepted them in good faith.

[frak] 15/4/2016 18:18

I believe so..

[goodbloke1] 15/4/2016 18:14

Have they paid all previous legal costs on time?

[frak] 15/4/2016 18:11

Here's an interesting article. It's worth reading the introduction and conclusion at least! Suggests there's little you can do about one party not paying their dues and that non-payment is quite common by Respondents.. mainly to cause delays!!!

Article refers to ICC rules but they're probably not much different for ICSID

[patviera] 15/4/2016 18:11

Have a good weekend warbucksAnd u DebbieHopefully interesting timesI'm bullish I just get annoyed when Bulls talk about prices like 4 and 5 pds which assumes max payout and no settlementSo let keep it real hereYes we may quadruple in price but anything more from posters is just them puffing so they can sell stock 3p higher than where we areWhen we were 13p I was the most bullish hereBut I always said 20 to 25p and that's it until we get settlement or tribunal result

[goodbloke1] 15/4/2016 18:05

How is the judge or arbitration panel going to know the difference between genuine or fake documents?The government could easily question the legality of any documents they issued previously saying they were false when in fact we accepted them in good faith.thats my concern

[goodbloke1] 15/4/2016 18:01

What if we were issued fake documents unknowing to us?