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|Thanks to MinesJ on lse listen on twitter to @GilesArbor two interviews one with Phil another with sector analyst... good stuff.|
The steel cell, unique to Ceres, has incorporated four previous levels of development and is now rugged enough to stand the many cycles of stop-start needed,. It operates at a lower temperature than other SOFCs, prolonging the life of the active ceramic coatings used, and is designed for mass production. It is designed by an industrially minded management, not by boffins as at ITM and IEH, AFC etc, and will be very profitable to make and sell for car firms and boiler makers etc to buy and build into their products.|
|scrutable - I don't see any chance for Ceres with its fuel cell in vehicles. It's not suitable as a primary source of electricity, and with most new battery cars having a range of 300km+ there's little need for a range extender.
Maybe in mchp, but there's insufficient information available to position it vs the competition (of which there's plenty, as the ene.field project shows).|
How do you know about the directors testing the CHP products in their homes?
|All good stuff, but will they ever make any money ?|
|Having had a small investment in this company for several years, and attended three AGMs in a row, I have seen the stature of the management grow consistently across all functions, ahead of its current minimum need, which has therefore always pointed confidently to further technical development and market expansion. Their business model is far sighted and one can already see the foundations of their future global share through maturing of partnerships with Nissan, Honda, and Cummins, in key industrial sectors: stationary and portable power generation; motor cars and electric vehicles (light vans, fork lift trucks etc; and domestic and institutional CHP (space and hot water heating)
Listed in 2004 at around 132p the share price reached 409p in mid 2007 before the company realised the futility of trying to develop and finance mass production and changed its model to IP development and licensing to global partners. In this one can already see the incubation of success, with the partners they have impressed, and from a debilitated share price of 9p they rose today by 7% on today's trading update, whence I confidently expect them to ten bag by next year once the fruits of commercialisation become plausible, and even visible..
The first CHP products are are being tested out in Directors' private houses and seem to show a 30% reduction in fuel bills. Thermal efficiency has already reached the unprecedented level of 92%, with electrical efficiency touching 55%, also stunning. This points to a revolution in developing countries who will be encouraged to add electricity generation at the point of need instead of wasting nearly 10% of it in long distance grid distribution.
In the automotive market pollution has reached a health hazard limit forcing the mayors of every large city on earth to embrace the complete banning of diesel and replacing it at least with electric vehicles preferably hydrogen fuelled,.where the high cost of batteries, their weight, and the increasing scarcity of the lithium needed, point to the need for a hydrogen fuel cell driven option, which Nissan is pursuing and hopes to launch in 2018
In the meantime, unless something totally different emerges from science. The Ceres well patented steel cell, remains untouchable by competition|
Good News... is a snowball effect developing ?|
|Trade of 6.5 million - it wasn't me. Suggested something in the air?|
|Merry Xmas and may our New Year power ahead like no other
|OCEANWOOD CAPITAL MANAGEMENT have increased their holding by >50% (or +27million)
Looks like a +ve move to me
One of the strengths of CWR is it's very committed share holder base. This was seen on the AGM where the voter turnout was 78pc very high for a company like CWR|
see message 5598 and listen to the recording by MD.
Cash resources vg after the £20 million raising and he says sufficient with improving income..|
|The trouble is that they will obviously need more money before they become cash flow neutral, and this makes share price movements self fulfilling.|
|The share price contradicts all the facts and is becoming an increasingly attractive invitation to accumulate. The CWR steel fuel cell is already a world beater as to electrical efficiency,power density(?) durability, cheapness of manufacture, and is endorsed by partnership with four(and a fifth, anonymous, probably as impressive) world giants.
At least six month's patience is required, before they reach the edge of commercialisation and prepare to launch the first application.. Thereafter, why should this share not ultimately x10 or even x20 bag?|
|33m shares traded today-includind one 7m share trade at 7p.
V high for CWR and gives me impression of someone who wants/ needs to sell by year end|
Have a good Christmas & New Year|
|Do you have Share Certificates that were typed out on Parchment using a Typewriter, like me ? LOLs|
Yes I have been here since the beginning!
|... I think you mean "even longer view", for some of us who've been here "forever"... LOLs
They have 4 excellent commercial prospects with really top notch names 3 of which have Uk, Us or Eu financial backing so all is not doom and gloom.
If you are waiting for them to create hype then you will be disappointed as that is not the Management style.
If you cannot wait 18 - 24 months sell and maybe that's what is happening to the share price right now.
Meantime good luck to all that take the longer view and compliments of the season.|
|Problem is the market expected the company to be further ahead in commercial prospects. Still just an R and D company.|
|Fourth partnership 'a really positive agreement for us' says Ceres chief Phil Caldwell
13:34 19 Dec 2016
|Really appreciated Scrutable and Smokey for those observations and like you Scrutable I get more confidence from CWR management than I do from ITM's|