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CLTV Cellcast Plc

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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Cellcast Plc LSE:CLTV London Ordinary Share GB00B0GWFM68 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 1.25 1.00 1.50 - 0.00 00:00:00
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25/1/2017
15:33
Interesting, wish I still had my 1.3p stock :-))

25 January 2017

25 January 2017

Cellcast plc

("Cellcast", "the Group" or "the Company")

Holdings in company

Cellcast plc (AIM: CLTV) announces that on 25 January 2017 it received notification from Atlas Group of Companies Limited ("Atlas") that, following a purchase of 1,400,000 shares in the Company, Atlas now has a total beneficial interest in 14,723,135 ordinary shares in Cellcast, equivalent to 18.99% of the Company's issued ordinary share capital.

tradermick1
25/1/2017
10:52
..non exec B.Folliott
...business partner of the long term MD ...joint owners of Sms Media ltd which is where their pay goes to....& co-founders of Cellcast

Almost the end of January now...

So he'll be looking forward to getting another 5000 pounds for month of January for being a non-exec at grp level & at the main subsidiary. (60k/yr). Resident outside the uk.
Payment made to Sms Media Ltd in Hong Kong ...is it tax free ?...Hong Kong was/is a tax haven imo.

Appears an easy life for close mates of the MD.....while since listing the co. has NEVER paid a single divi...& has had to multiply the number of shares x3 !! "after" the IPO to raise money to stay alive.....( that money being slowly transferred out to ppl like BF ??)

Perhaps meets most of the conditions to be called a lifestyle company....for the dirs.

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If all the dirs. avoid or minimise tax by using Hong Kong companies...& other AIM cos. as well..then it's not good for collecting taxes to then pay for hospitals & schools.

smithie6
21/1/2017
16:12
I have to say Smithie you've done your homework and made some very good points.

I'll be interested to hear what the BOD have to say in response.

No doubt they read this blog from time to time.

;-)

philjeans
19/1/2017
11:04
"...has had pretty rotten luck..."

Disagree with that....people like Luke Johnson, V. Murray (IT dir. Ex MD at ASW), Giles Clark KENV Chairman
....have records of overriding success (with probably a few failures as well)....imho their success is not imo due to them having luck or not...since their % success rate is so high compared with many others ...(eg. Giles Clark (KENV chairman) has even been successful in completely different sectors)
...(while some perceived stars do fall over completely & any past 'skill' is put completely in doubt !....Bob Morton is having a bad run imo in recent years (if only he had listened to me ;-) he'd be much richer now !).

I doubt that numerous failed JVs at CLTV can be blamed on repeated bad luck or dodgy partners. ( choosing JV partners & the JV contract clauses are decisions by the CLTV directors and not by some unknown Mr Luck, nor by spinning a coin). Hopefully lessons from past failures increases the chances of avoiding similar repeats. ( But 2Giraffes investment cash just had big write down, yet another new failure imo)

Hopefully endless JVs by the exec dirs is not just to avoid being removed. (An investor tries to assess, not around to give out presents)

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I think Good Governance rules require/advice CLTV to

- add a non-exec that is truly indep. (Neville is linked to Atlas as past dir. there & to the Brasil JV with CLTV & is not indep. imo)

- rotate/remove non-execs or chairman ( I think the suggested limit is 10 yrs)

- rotate/remove perhaps the FD. Ref 10 yrs

...& imo the big shareholders should be supervising such topics...since it's human nature for the bod to make no changes

At SWL some big shareholders forced thru new MD & Chairman.....the co. perf & share price has gone x 2.5 since then.
At TST a new chairman has arrived & made big shakeup, reducing costs etc...same at other cos.
My feeling is that chairman here is not guiding the ship...rather that goes along with MD...

And imo the MD has too much power....he's the financial sign off for the main turnover of the group (at subsidiary)...& grp FD isnt even on the bod at the main subsidiary !!

While accepting that it's a specialist sector & experience is needed so the choice of ppl is reduced.

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So, big investors should imo :-

-look at putting grp FD onto bod at the subsidiary.
- Requiring uk address in UK co. records of Mr BF if he's UK resident (law) (not Hong Kong), if not then
- make sure 2 execs on the subsidiary bod that are uk residents (& working at M.Keynes) currently just 1
- Consider to move Neville to non-exec dir. & bring in new chairman or adding an indep. non-exec
- Consider whether any suitable corp. actions & suggest to bod.
- review with the bod the history & contract clauses for JVs to try to make future JVs a success & avoid repeating the DISASTROUS history of JVs & associate investments
- perhaps spend 5k-10k on an indep. review by a specialist incl. strategy, bod structure, repeated JV & assocs. venture failures, grp/dir. structure (phps only 1 exec dir present at M Keynes, not ok imho), any suggested help/assistance to aid the bod/company etc
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The group MD imo has 3 votes at the bod (his + B.Folliott . Joint co-founder & co-owner of Sms Media Ltd (Hong Kong) where their wages are paid to) & the FD (who the MD can sack or ease out at any moment at subsidiary since not a on the bod & only 1 exec. dir.)

....so the MD ctrls the bod...imo that breaks the rules and/or guidance for 'Good Governance'

smithie6
18/1/2017
22:56
...I will ask the co.
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..my respect for your not ramping ...

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I agree that the current position is better than it has been in recent yrs.....
but it has been in the same current situation of having cash many times before....and then fallen over again !!

instability has been 10/10 ..since the IPO

uf, dark hours...looking like there have been quite a few....( a rescue cash raise less than 12 months after floating !!....and other rescues..number of shares has multiplied by 3 ! ..& once a rescue 900k loan from dirs, thanks to them for that...)

see what happens this time around !!

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I estimate that you bought between 1.5 - 2p in 2nd half of 2011....5-6 yrs ago...
if so then you've had a tough time since ..with it halving !...& staying below 1p for a few years !!....& appears that it would have gone bust without selling a channel assignment for about 3M...(a cash raise may have been unsuccessful since perhaps needed 2 x cap. value of the co. !)....I guess all big holder took a big sigh of relief !!

smithie6
18/1/2017
20:15
Smithie, As i said before i'm not here to speak for the company or their actions and i don't want to be seen to ramp the company up. Also as i said before it's best to just speak to them, they wont bite. Shareholders are shareholders big or small and if your enquiries are just, fair and reasonable i find most companies will do their best to tell you the facts within the constraints of what they are allowed.

P.S. The share price range has been as high as 90p and as low as 0.5p. And at 0.5p it would have been all to easy for the directors to have pulled out the rug and called it a day. The darkest hour as such as passed and mistakes of the past have hopefully been learnt. Also the company has had some pretty rotten luck over the years with blindsides of regulation changes and partners/telcos in ventures being less than honourable.

lyonst5
18/1/2017
08:26
...in any case I'm grateful for your replies & time

I dont think I'll have any new pts to raise/post. ( I have 1 but it is surely my misunderstanding of accounts & consolidation)

smithie6
18/1/2017
08:14
..for some pts I was partly hoping that you might reply ..informing me & any other readers...'you think it's X + Z. Actually its X + T, see data in accounts note 23d'

Or
'That was discussed at last AGM & the group FD is not a dir. at the main subsidiary, nor a signatory to the validity of the main subsidiary accounts ( where all the turnover is) because............
And everyone was happy with that explanation'.
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Big shareholders will have seen my recent pts.
If any of them are significant I'm 99% sure/hopeful that they will raise them with the co. ;-).......I only have a small stake....blink & I'll be gone....whereas big shareholders need to be very sure about their big investment.....

smithie6
18/1/2017
07:19
Smithie. I would highly recommend you saving time here and contact the company directly for any of questions you have or attending an AGM.
lyonst5
17/1/2017
18:12
Lyonst5
...paid to co. owned by the 2 co founders in 2010...500k..(incl 277k rent & rates)

imo the big shareholders should ensure that there are no further significant related party transactions like this

....much better if co. transactions are clean/independant of the directors & seen to be clean....investor confidence is important

smithie6
17/1/2017
14:12
Lyont5

'Bank loan'

Official papers show that all of cltv is security for loan to Barclays....

But

You reckon its 100k & my guess is 300k ("other creditors").
(Update..2015 plc accnts. Note 18e. 300k loan . Libor +3%. 2 pts for me ;-) )

If you or the co. want PI interest in the shares then PIs need high clarity/transparency in the accounts, & hopefully the dirs. can fix this for the 2016 accnts; & ensure that no one else will have the same qus. as me in my recent posts, by providing transparent accnts & fixing anything that needs fixing (phps audit the main subsidiary accnts & put the group FD on the subsidiary bod !)
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What does the grp FD do because they are not on the bod at the main subsidiary nor do they sign those accnts..where almost the grp turnover is...

..lots of golf or saunas ...??

.& yet their pay has roughly doubled since the IPO !?

smithie6
16/1/2017
23:00
Why is the group FD & secretary not a dir. or secretary at the main subsidiary where almost all the turnover is ?!

...the group FD has no involvement ??!!

Ah....and I see that the subsidiary accounts are not audited !.....not reqd. by co. law for subsidiary if the group does not require it.

Not audited and the group FD doesnt even sit on the brd to keep an eye on financial aspects !.
Why do the big shareholders accept that ?!
Seems unusual to me.

(& if no audit of most of the turnover then surely the plc audit cost should be almost 0, since almost nothing to audit!)
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If the big shareholders wanted an audit to be done then they could require it now while the 2016 accounts are being generated. (2 big hldrs form a big block of shares & the bod wld imo audit the main subsidiary if asked to by telephone)

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Appears that most shares in other entities are held by the subsidiary or by a company ctrlld by the 2 co-founders 'in benefit for cltv' !, & not at group holding level grp......seems unusual...

smithie6
16/1/2017
21:08
Is Barclay loan 300k. ?..ref subsidiary accounts....'creditors...other'
(Quality-clarity of accnts is poor imo)

All assets & turnover of subsidiary are security for it...& the grp gtees the subsidiary debts/payables....so, officially CLTV is gtee for that loan.

Would it not be to logical to remove such a risk.... by paying it off....since the grp currently holds cash

Noting that... turnover of subsidiary is in a down trend....& a few yrs ago the co. had negative current assets at fin. yr end...things could change from here...why take unneeded risks if not needed ?

smithie6
16/1/2017
16:58
Lyonst5

...appears that all of the business of the main subsidiary is security for loan from Barclays....
while at the same time the group has money deposited in a deposit to which the co. can only access 1 time per year.....and the co. also has cash...

surely the loan from Barclays should be paid off immediately to remove that risk ?

smithie6
16/1/2017
13:23
....for some pts. I wldnt expect the bod to agree...

Such as
That the FD has doubled their pay since the IPO....despite the co. financially 'losing' the money raised in the IPO...(

Or bod pay being around 600k only 4 yrs ago.....bod doing nicely but shareholders not winning nor receiving a divi.

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...the big shareholders allowed the 600k/yr bod pay in past yrs...& FD to double their pay..
& for B.Folliet to rx same 60k/yr even after he changed from exec to non-exec at plc level.
...my tiny voice & shareholding wld be inaudible in comparison with any voice from any big shareholder with any solid comments to the bod...

smithie6
16/1/2017
09:49
Be good to raise some of these points at the AGM smithie - I assume you'll go.
philjeans
16/1/2017
09:17
(...I do think the bod structure should be improved....
...since Mr Neville is linked to the 50% owner pre-IPO (& co. was setting up a JV into which it put 1M pnds....which then didnt progress)....there doesnt appear to be imo any indep. dir. on the bod...

smithie6
16/1/2017
09:04
...ok...noted...
...I'll perhaps try to ring the co....

smithie6
14/1/2017
15:01
Lyonst5

The previous investment by CLTV of 200k in associate to own 35%


accounts look interesting...around 200k turnover in previous yrs...but employee costs of only 2000 pnds !
strange
You understand that ??

smithie6
13/1/2017
16:07
Thanks for those comments


...I await with interest to see future reporting/news from the co. to see news on progress


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Tarifa
...I visited once...unusual place...
The locals huddled at home keeping out of the wind driven sand....& hippy/opt-out camper vans & skinny hippie dogs...wackie backie atmosphere...
But ideal for windsurf & kitesurf ( I'm into wsurf but not done for a while due to a ligament prob. Back this yr)

smithie6
13/1/2017
15:48
Smithie. There are few investments. 2giraffes, Hong Kong gaming one and a US treasury bonds.
On the gaming side i am in the dark with the current situation, so hope we all hear more about this soon. I don't think the new revenue streams are labour intensive and are more about that Cellcast have a good skill set in the premium/online/payment area. The added bonus now is the better revenue collection as the past was a nightmare getting their fair share money out of the telcos. Mpesa in Kenya and Africa in general is a much better system to work with.
And remember the directors were around doing the gaming stuff before gaming went big and decided rather on going down the TV premium call road, which is generally dying on its feet but Cellcast will probably be the last man standing in this area of business and could see some improvement due to almost monopoly position they will have.
The related party transaction stuff is something i accepted when i first invested so as long as no red flags appear i'm ok with it.
In general i'm relaxed about my holding here, the directors are open and straight about the business and never keen to be seen to talk the business or the share price up. The company is very much under the radar and i would say undervalued, though we all say that about companies we are invested in.

Yes i spend some time in Spain and in particularly in windy Tarifa, and many thanks for the beer invite.

lyonst5
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