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|Large volume again today. We may be seeing the turning point.|
Yes, he posted this on February 15th:
UtyINV 15 Feb '17 - 15:44 - 3649 of 3774
If this is the most Shorted stock on the Market is there a fundamental reason that the 'Shorters' may know about via Corporate leaks or what?
Lets not forget the Company did say late last year that 2017 was going to be a very tough year and that profits were going to be down. What if the 'Shorters' have some incline as to what is going to be disclosed on 1st March?|
|TryINV - did you recycle your or somebody's old posting? It looks familiar to me.|
|TryINV - did you recycle your/somebody's|
|Val - you are correct, it is eight-year low. It is unbelievable, isn't it. Wow!|
|Only one week to go till the truth!! Anything other than profits warning, divi cut is good news!|
|213p close on Google Finance.|
|'Get the feeling that the Shorts know something that the rest of us don't.'
How do they get that knowledge ? Yes, CLLN is in touch with some of the shorters to find out why they are doing so, but the company cannot tell them anything that is not already in the public domain without breaking the law, which I am sure they would not do.
The very size of the shorting has been sufficient to cause a fall in the share price Potential investors are not buying because they too feel that the shorters know something we don't so the shorters have half their work already done for them.
Unless we have been lied to by the company (which we will know one way or another next Wednesday) then I'm afraid, UtyINV, it is paranoia.|
|Get the feeling that the Shorts know something that the rest of us don't. Not being paranoid but leaks do occur and tend to favour the 'City' parasites in Mayfair ( UK HEdge Funds).
In the news yesterday was a piece regarding DB pensions and the Gov are contemplating allowing Companies who are in difficulty to renege on pension promises i.e. Offering a lower payout that will not cripple the Company. So if it's the pension deficit that is making this stock so undesirable then there may be something in the future that will aid Carillion.|
|8 year low? Yet 8 years ago on a P/E of 12 it was twice what it is now.|
|They should issue a 'we know of no reason for the fall in the sp' rns...afterall you get them if its the other way round!|
|yes can`t see how that can be justified.
|Shares at 8 year lows now.|
|guess they are looking for 200p
think brexit sent us down to 196p intraday
|Specific to us healthcare market though but same sector so let's knock CLLN!!|
|Cheers for that spoole, was not awake to the Serco warning.
Of course they are trading on a much higher rating even after the 19% falls today.|
|Is carillion the only support services company that hasn't warned?|
|Serco warning not helping here today, although the shorters hardly need an excuse.|
|Stroder - don't start this again because it had been discussed before. In a long and tedious way. Of course, I can't stop you if insist.Good luck to you.|
|The short side catches everyone's attention due to the percentage size, however how many of the shorts are un-hedged?
I ask this as traditional hedge funds are generally considered to be 'hedged' or market neutral hence the name.
looking very briefly at another stock, I picked out AQR to try and see what their motivation might be, one of their funds can be seen here:
"The Fund is designed to be market neutral, targeting a portfolio beta to equity markets of zero over a normal business cycle. We construct the portfolio based on our global security selection and asset allocation models, employing the following indicators:"
What I would like to establish is how they go about off setting short positions, are they trading pairs for example or other instruments to balance things out?
Not sure if AQR are short of CLLN but they do pop up regularly on other stocks either short or in arbs.|
|WJ - looking at narrow spread of today's trading, I believe the shorters' chance to continue to short this share is limited, their shorting operating will reverse to buying back soon. Carillion will report its result in just over a week, if the shorters try hard now and the share price is not going to fall as they expected, then the buying back will happen in the next few days. I do not believe they will take such a big risk while they are still in big profit. I am really interested to see the end game.|
|at this price its a gift, but how low can it go. still waiting to buy my last 50%
but need to sell BKG first, and that one has come back a little bit from its high.
might give it another week.
Guess there is a whole raft of peeps thinking the same thing..........
|I often think (and indeed may have suggested) that Carillion get into (social housing) house building.|
|kiwihope - what a intelligent fellow! What you said is spot on.|