Capital Ideas Share Discussion Threads

[egoi] 18/10/2009 12:02

Apples i'd contact the company if you are concerned. Given that the shares traded at 0.01 - 0.1p on their last day on AIM, I'm sceptical as to their likely worth. On the plus side, maybe they will re-float one day? - good luck!

Meanwhile, Alistair Blair of Investors' Chronicle wants to hear from anyone with concerns over Double Carbon Battery's original offer for sale, and I think he genuinely wishes to help.

[apples0114] 08/10/2009 07:40

ok, am new to this, and have just come back into the country after a few years away. To find that Capital Ideas has left Aim, Does this mean My shares are worthless, or are they just suspended. Tks for any advice

[topvest] 04/10/2009 10:21

Yes, shame it was about 5 years too late to save investors who have lost their money.

[egoi] 04/10/2009 09:11

Comment by Investors Chronicle. Well worth a read in my personal opinion, I especially found the last paragraph brought tears to my eyes. Dunno why, it just did!

[tiredoldbroker] 11/3/2009 12:04

Anyone thinking of being taken in by Treacle's latest ramp - FIE - should read the torrent of make believe he/she posted on this thread before vanishing to spin another web of deceit somewhere else.

[egoi] 27/2/2009 12:54

0.01p bid. Not a lot more need be said imho.

[safman] 27/2/2009 12:06

barnetpeter - 30 Jan'09 - 18:52 - 1718 of 1741


I think this is a really good move. The mkt cap is stupid as is the spread. Crazy to pay 100k for a listing. I have two other stocks that have delisted for the same reasons. Fine by me - they will list again in due course at a much higher level.

How can this be at such a stupid level? A PE of about 1.5 with a fraction of the assets? The reason is that too many investors are fed up with the Langbar and similar dodgy Aim stuff. The average loss sufferred by investors buying AIM stocks is apparently 80% over the last three years. Average!

I am a buyer at 0.10.


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saffy..

[barnetpeter] 27/2/2009 11:51

0.01 bid. Wow! Another AIM con.

[camgeo4] 27/2/2009 04:29

not with R Haddow involved although I think FSA should monitor him strongly !! as he still runs the company even after disqualifiction

[spadman] 25/2/2009 08:52

Get your shares out of nominee and vote NO, who in their right mind would vote yes?

[mattrix1] 23/2/2009 23:02

True.. my broker said the same thing about the matched bargain. There should be some rules to protect investors from losing out when a company decides to go private. Due to an article I read 19 aim companies have gone private during January.

If it is down to something simple like cost saving..a company should be expected to buy back any shares at a 6 month average price or not allow directors to vote to help discourage delisting.

[egoi] 23/2/2009 16:14

My two personal predictions and in all seriousness for anyone thinking of buying:

1) If previous examples I have heard of are anything to go by, should the time come you want a matched bargain you will struggle to sell - at almost any price.
2) This company will never come back to market.

[mattrix1] 23/2/2009 12:39

One thing Treacle may have been right about was the Aim listing adding value to the company/ share price. In this case alot.
Nothing has really changed with trade/ performance however the company is now valued by the market at 60 to 70 % less due going private.

If Capt was to float again in the future the valuation would be right back up there again. In this case where an Aim listing seems worthless to the company...how can it be worth so much?

[tiredoldbroker] 18/2/2009 13:39

poppadum, who do you think would 'pay back' the investor, especially if the company delisting doesn't have cash ? And to be honest, most companies that delist have been widely criticised before they do so, for not being run in the interests of shareholders, or having a poor business plan - certainly the case here, where there were a number of us pointing out the flaws, and where the profits announced never came anywhere near what the rampers had projected.

[double6] 18/2/2009 13:02

popp - see TWL is moving up nicely - can still buy well within the spread.

[poppadom2] 18/2/2009 13:01

I think it is criminal for companies to choose to delist themselves and after that for the share not be able to paid back to the investor based on the day price on the day an announcement of delistind is made. Many investors in this good going business lost between 33 and 66% of their invested value simply because the company wants to go private and there appears to be NO legislation protecting investors!

[egoi] 12/2/2009 12:18

I don't share your views on management at DAN - I've read their 'research' notes too!

But you have put your finger on it imho, the CAPT shares are not down to bad trading as such re actual results, but perhaps down due to a decision by management to delist, that is in my personal opinion crass, but does not surprise me.

[mattrix1] 12/2/2009 11:38

egoi... yes i've held for years when the company was called leisure ventures then. I have made money from this company better than some others and if it wasn't from the de-list announcment I would have a nice little profit.

I have done the management research does not always work..my biggest loss is a company called Daniel Stewart (Dan) this is a company with a good management stucture and has performed well in the past but unloved now.

Capt had an ave price of .30p for years most other Aim companies have gone down some have gone bust. I take my hat off to anyone showing a good profit on their Aim shares..good management or otherwise!!

I just get gutted when I see my profit vanish due to no bad trading performance of the company..they should just list on PLUS if fee's are too high.

[egoi] 11/2/2009 17:00

Mattrix I'm sure you have been a holder in good faith here for some time.

Sorry it has worked out this way.

In the future I hope you'll look at quality and history of management before investing. I don't of course know if you did here, but perhaps I wonder do you consider it a lesson learnt?

Over the years I have found that particular little bit of research has helped me more than almost anything else, however apparently good any concept. my own opinion here was that for me it was a seriously off-putting issue.

Taken with cashflow, debt and profit and you should be on your way! And sincere good luck. -:)

[tiredoldbroker] 09/2/2009 20:14

mattrix1 I have to agree with jaknife, basically you'll be lucky if there are any independent buyers; usually the only buyers are directors, who will only pay a fraction of the underlying value, knowing that you have nowhere else to go if you need to sell. No other buyers because nobody writes about the stock, it doesn't even get a one-day burst of interest when figures come out, and because most people wouldn't buy something with no clear exit route. And in fairness, you've got to admit I was telling people to get out of this piece of trash months ago.

[mattrix1] 09/2/2009 17:24

that's great advice broker!!! not

Luckily I sold most of my holding when the finals come out at a small profit..Treacle had no influence at all..I just buy low and sell after finals..done it for years.

tob you must have dealt with de listing companies back in the day..will a private company's share price work out as...

1. six month ave of the share price prior to delisting

2. share price on the day prior to the delisting news.

3. final listed share price (last day of trading).


anyone in the know?