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|Get out Save yourselves lol|
|you never know..Mines might pull a rabbit out of the hat..but then again maybe not|
|HOLDING UP GOOD. MAKE LOTS OF CASH FOR ME.|
So, some sort of compostable cup might be a solution?
Looks like Mines will have to lay low for a while again - just in case some potential business tries to snare him and interrupt his lazy, gravy train riding days.
Remember when he spent a fortune progressing plastic bags and then ran away from it all just before non-biodegradable plastic bag bans came into force?
Expect a withdrawal from the coffee cup market any time soon [as if BIOM ever had any foothold in that market anyway, just numerous,fruitless trials year after year]|
|not much cash left...placing likely|
|I don't either as the cash would just be spent like the last 15mln|
|Read into my comment as you will, but we are binary on whether the shares will rise on the sale of RF. You believe so, I don't.|
|"These are purely speculations".Welcome to investment.Your speculation is that RF is valuable and will be sold, and it doesn't take a great leap of imagination to believe BIOM shares may rise considerably on that news.Thanks for your thoughtful input.|
|These are purely speculations. I do not know what they ultimately intend to do, but if they seek to raise cash they will dilute and reduce the share price. If they sell they have cash and no real assets which also will cause the share to fall if there is no alternative high growth option to pursue.
Based on historical evidence of this management team, and it is nothing personal in my comment, it is far more likely that nothing much happens but a future loss, will drive the share price lower.|
|So they will likely divest the company that makes 20%+ op margins selling products people want, but you don't anticipate in that event BIOM shares will rise.I think we both suspect that's not true.|
|It has value, but not as a listed company. As it stands the losses are supported only by RF and thus have value. But that value is dropping. the only reason to invest is because of the future growth opportunity. That has been somewhat scarce with this company for many years.|
|"It has value, but not here."If RF is privatised as you suggest, it will very quickly have a value here, won't it?|
|I had mentioned that there is a likelihood that the outcome for this is that RF would be privatised and the cash used to push the shell on a further year or two. 20%+ op margin is not a high growth company and should not be on the stock exchange. It has been like this for years. It has value, but not here. That was my point|
|Sirmark - I would give 0.80p for all the shares just for entertainment value|
|no that is not my point and nor do I believe that is mulliguts point. You just choose to interpret things to fit you own belief as your comments on this board show.
As you said RF is making operating margin BUT, the company overall is not. RF is old technolgy with limited application, hardly a success. The company has a lot of good ideas but never successfuly develops them.
Anyway, good luck with your investments|
|Glyns point is that big revenues are evidence of a successful business, and mulliguts point is that big revenues aren't necessarily evidence of a successful business.Perhaps you two can knock your heads together and come up with a point that sticks.In the meantime, RF makes decent revenues at attractive margins, selling products people want, and crucially, has a very low implied multiple based on the current valuation of BIOM.|
|Given that SPAR has approx 12,500 stores in 35 countries with a gross revenue valued in Billions of Euros probaly not quite a fair comparison. Shame really as I would have liked Biome to have turned in to a large company that made profit.
As for individual franchisees, margin varies depending on the location of the store, competiton etc etc, I know two that make around 8%.|
|The RF division made 25% op margin in h1.I would guess spar made closer to 2.5%.Still think the businesses are comparable?|
|Wigwammer. There are many more Spar stores out there generating more revenue than this company. That said you might get more return form a company with high street footfall selling a range of products that customers want. In the case of BIOME clearly revenue does not mean profit and it has not meant profit for many, many years as can be seen from the history of EBITDA losses.
That said the execs have kept the losses so tantalisingly close to breakeven that many have held on, hoping that one day.... After so much disappointment any positive news is no better than putting lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig.|
|Sirmark -I meant £1 for ALL the shares.Clearly if it is a small company with illiquid stock and a useless exec team then logically it has no value at all.Certainly a lot easier to moan about the execs than intelligently attempt to value what is there.|
|This is a stock only for speculation and for no more than a few hundred pounds and nothing in the thousands as the liquidity does not allow it to be possible at these levels.|