Schroder Asian Total Ret... Share Discussion Threads

[ben angel] 21/10/2008 00:00

i dont particularly care if they go to prison or not that's not my worry -what does concern me is Shelly lied to the SFA/IMRO enforcement meetings and you will apologise in writing to the FSA and pay me compensation Mr Shelly OK ? you happy with this out of court settlement its up to you ---after you have settled with me then The FSA can deal with you

regards Harry Punter

[ben angel] 20/10/2008 01:45

I am considering offering myself to assist the compliance officer at Alltrue in return for a fair annual salary its just a thought as I really have in mind Sir Hugh Davies at the London school of ecomomics to be in charge of all matters and advice on compliance directives from the Whitehall tea ladies commitee and clerks who are currently running the FSA

[ben angel] 19/10/2008 17:09

Payment will be coming direct from G Shelly of Hichens Harrison Stockbrokers an Indian company
I will be instructing Peter Bullen my personal tax consultant to open a new holding and trading account in my company name " Bonia Finance S. A "...to set up CFD trading facilities.
This is my Panamanian holding company I fully own and control that will hold 29.99 % Alltrue shares
I am in the process of acquiring these shares and have given instructions to Peter Bullen to see that all my client instructions are fully carried out and dealt with

In due course Peter Bullen will notify the stock exchange regulatory authorities of the company change in management and that my differences with Graham Shelly have been settled amicably between us and with the FSA
My lawyers in Switzerland will arrange the resurrection of my company " Bonia Finance S.A. " and will represent my family interests in this transaction. My personal lawyer Mr A Delucia in Geneva will confirm the legality of all my claims against Shelly to the Regulatory Authorities and Shelly's own Lawyers Saba tooth in London, whom I am entering into personal direct negotiations to settle all these legal claims and financial demands of mine against Graham Shelly !
It's wiser he settles with me out of court financially rather than the FSA intervenes and he then needs to be prepared to risk loosing his career in the City if this complaint is settled in the law Court's.
In my humble opinion Mr shelly will almost certainly wish for all these matters and my claims to be are settled immediately preferably out of court thats free Advice from my personal family Lawyer to Graham Shelly and my family friend Clive Macquire of Hichens Harrison !.

[ben angel] 14/10/2008 08:12

and so say all of us--and so say all of us !!!!

[ben angel] 09/10/2008 12:20

The genuine honest and hard working investor is not as gullible as he/she was 10-15 years ago when Leo and Weller first started out engineering RTO's on the poorly regulated unlisted (usm) and now it's replacement AIM markets.
The stock exchange are well aware of Knifton and Weller business methods and situations like this will or should not be repeated in future.
Sooner or later this company will need to tap the market for additional finance for working capital or funding to finance another acquisition ..thats fine it shouldn't be a problem providing it addresses all the points I have mentioned first.
I can guarantee without restoring the balance in favour of all shareholders, any new issue by this company will flop unless the management changes it's spots and begins to protect all shareholders in future and not just themselves and their own interests.

[ben angel] 09/10/2008 09:28

trouble with the way this company is structured ...the existing management are getting priority and first charge on all the dissposable commission income being generated from MPS in the form of fixed income on the loans stocks ..from this Knifton and Co are also favoured and protected in the event of a liquidation on assets and can easilly walk away with the entire company and set up again.

This is an appalling situation for the remaining minorority Alltrue shareholders..because under this existing arrangement..aside being extremely unfair its a certainty Alltrue shareholders will never see a true return on the original investment.

[fenseal3] 08/10/2008 22:49

what peeps don't get here is the fact that if this company was a pile of poo then you would get rid ASAP.....but the MM,s don't want to let go..you can not buy more than 150000k @ 0.03 so in my eye's this is good....if this was such a bag of poo then my order for 500k @ .3 would of gone through.

[ben angel] 08/10/2008 20:15

so what do you see happening to Alltrue Jaknife ?

[ben angel] 08/10/2008 00:47

If this company is to survive apart from strenghtening the board with a new chairman --it needs a capital reconstruction weighted in favour of all shareholders primarily away from Knifton and Weller's tight control-
To survive ATR needs Falcon to acquire or merge the balance of MPS it does not already own --
And if Knifton and Weller will agree terms in the interests of all shareholders then I will personally support a further financial placing to help grow the company

kindest regards

[ben angel] 07/10/2008 04:20

i agree with that ..major changes will eventually be forced onto the management because the company has completely destroyed its own creditability and further fundings along the previous line are completely out of the equation --the public are wise to Weller and Kniftons sharp practice now !
Only poor managed companies or broking houses get taken over - this Company is a certainty to go bust or become another take over statistic

At the end of the day --I suspect an eventual takeover will be more like a friendly merger out of desperation and panic to end Alltrue's fate and destiny in the City.

[leadersoffice] 06/10/2008 18:29

I agree with your comments Ben. But what about the way the markets are going? after the global markets find there bottom which I think is some way off yet... financial companies in general stockbrokers are going to be just disappearing. i think it will be a hell of along time before private investors put money into the market. So the likes of Montague Pitman will probably be out of business.
You might think im being over the top but i cant see the general situation getting better for years.

[ben angel] 06/10/2008 17:12

its a lousy deal that disenfranchises the majority of shareholders in favour of Knifton
i am of course referring to the only profitable part of Alltrue (Montague Pitman Stockbrokers) thats 49% owned by alltrue and the rest by Knifton family interests remembering that the Kniftons are cleverly prioritised in favour over other Alltrue shareholders in the unhappy event of a liquidation on bankruptcy.
I can't believe private investing shareholders have agreed and allowed themselves to be screwed and supported this deal.

It explains to me why the city investing community doesn't trust Leo or weller

[ben angel] 06/10/2008 14:58

not bust leader but the shares are now begining to reflect a true and fair market value

[leadersoffice] 06/10/2008 14:36

This is now bust!

[leadersoffice] 02/10/2008 10:11

Fenseal

Thank you for your comments. I have been in these since 2004 4 ur info and have topped up twice and therefore have been a holder from the begining. Making the statement that you have is slander and you should think twice before making statements like that. I shall discount as I can imagine that like the rest of us long term holders... you are very frustrated.


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