Aquatic Food Share Discussion Threads

[davidosh] 28/9/2016 17:12

You probably need to listen to this BBC radio show

[johndee] 28/9/2016 17:09

The dividend is still better than the interest on any type of savings account.

[brwo349] 28/9/2016 16:56

Rupe

This is a fraud. 100%. Exactly the same fraud has been done a dozen or more times.

PE ratio is 4. The company has nearly 3 times as much cash as market cap. It's cash flow positive.

On these metrics if this company was legitimate everyone would be buying it. The directors. The directors' wives. The directors' wives tennis partners. The directors' dogs.

There may be a very small legitimate business buried somewhere here but its just a front for the fraud. The financial results are all made up.

Hope this helps.

[someuwin] 28/9/2016 11:24

"Chinese companies just seem to hate paying dividends"

...Haven't you worked out why that is Rupe?

[rupe1958] 28/9/2016 11:14

Disappointing to see the divi slashed.

i can see that cutting the dividend here is probably justified. Profits have basically halved. But did they really need to slash from .7p to .2p?

Profits are still nearly £4m for the half year (after tax). This divi will cost less than 10% of that.

Also there is 417m RMB in cash. That's about £45m.

Chinese companies just seem to hate paying dividends.

[wstirrup] 14/9/2016 22:34

The future of all fish stocks is farming... WE better get used to it.

We can't just keep taking from the oceans, and not managing them... It happened on land, and with say 9billion, (by 2030?) it will happen in the water too...

Any company worth its salt, will be planning for that day.

And Speccy... We've all been there mate... We live and learn.

BUT, at the moment, bargain of the century. I'm fully loaded elsewhere, expecting a rapid move north in the company that used to have the AFG moniker... (African Gold, which became MWA - Mwana Africa, and now has become ASA Reseource Group...ASA)

They are sitting on a 100% price rise+ this year, having been as low as £0.003 in January, with a recent run up to 2p, which might see a small top-up opportunity, in the near future, if you have any spare readies...

An opportunity to pull something back?

W.

[rupe1958] 25/8/2016 07:27

speccy1 - interesting blog. Thanks for the link.

Re. AFG, there are reasons to be optimistic. In particular because of the high calibre new Finance Director from West China Cement (very good company). The share price has gone much too low. AFG IPO'ed at 60p and there's no reason it shouldn't get back there in a year or so. In the meantime we get a 10% dividend, which might rise.

Q2 trading statement next week perhaps?

[speccy1] 24/8/2016 20:15

Woohoo! Nice to see the dividend land in my account at last.

Also nice to see the bid price climb by 2p when the share price just climbed 0.5p. That was enough to wipe out 20% of my losses on this share. Still quite a way to go to get above water though.

It also means the title of my Nemesis Share has passed from AFG to OPTI - but with OPTI posting interims tomorrow AFG could win the title back!

More on this thrilling battle in my blog :)



I first bought shares here when I was extremely naive. The thought that there could be anything dodgy just didn't register. As I looked more into the history of Chinese AIM stocks I became terrified at what I had done, but the more I looked, the more confident I became this company was for real.

It was hard to maintain that faith when sitting on £1,000 loss, especially as a comparatively small investor. I have bought more recently, particularly after the appointment of the new Finance Director. This has brought my weighted average price down from 35p to 22p, so now it's just a case of sitting back and hoping the profits and dividends continue to flow. Maybe in a few years I'll break even...

[rupe1958] 22/8/2016 08:41

This is interesting article from Bloomberg about Chinese fish stocks, or the lack of them.
As a leading importer of fish into China (from the UK, Norway and many other countries) AFG is in quite a good place, I think.

China's Empty Oceans
308AUG 17, 2016 6:00 PM EDT
By
Adam Minter
On Wednesday, Indonesia celebrated its Independence Day with a bang -- blowing up several Chinese boats that had been caught fishing illegally in its waters and impounded. China doesn't dispute Indonesia's territorial claims, but Chinese fishermen have more pressing concerns. According to reports in Chinese state media this week, overfishing and pollution have so depleted China's own fishery resources that in some places -- including the East China Sea -- there are virtually "no fish" left.

That's a frightening prospect for an increasingly hungry country: China accounted for 35 percent of the world's seafood consumption in 2015. Seeking catches further afield -- including in Indonesian waters -- isn't really a solution; fish stocks in the disputed South China Sea have themselves fallen by as much as 95 percent from 1950s levels. If China doesn't want the rest of Asia's fisheries to suffer the same fate as its own, it's going to have to think much more ambitiously about how to create a sustainable food supply for the region.

As in other developing countries, China's ascent up the income ladder has been accompanied by an improvement in quality and quantity of diet. Seafood -- once a pricey luxury in much of the country -- has become commonplace, even inland; China is now the world's biggest seafood consumer and exporter. The economic impact has been extraordinary. Between 1979 and 2013, China's fleet of motorized fishing vessels grew from 55,225 to 694,905 boats, while the number of people employed in the fishing industry exploded from 2.25 million to more than 14 million. Meanwhile, the average fisherman's income increased from around $15 per month to nearly $2,000 per month. Today, the fishing industry generates more than $260 billion annually, accounting for around 3 percent of Chinese GDP.

But in pursuing growth (and catch) at all costs, China's fishermen have exacted a terrible environmental toll. Today, the Yangtze River, which supplies 60 percent of China's freshwater catch, produces less than a quarter of the fish it did in 1954, and most of the 170 species in the river are on the verge of extinction. The situation is no better offshore. The government acknowledges that Chinese fishermen routinely exceed annual sustainable catch limits in Chinese territorial seas by 30 percent or more. A visit to any Chinese seafood market will turn up large inventories of under-sized fish that should never have been hauled in in the first place.

Blame for this state of affairs falls on both the fishing industry and the government, which spent $6.5 billion on fisheries subsidies in 2013 alone. Nearly all of that money paid for cheap fuel that allowed and arguably encouraged Chinese fishermen to venture further from shore, often into the comparatively un-plundered exclusive economic zones of countries such as Indonesia. Worse, the Chinese military has openly abetted those efforts by subsidizing everything from ice to GPS on Chinese fishing boats. The goal: to solidify China's claim to "historical fishing rights" in the vast and deeply contested South China Sea.

Chinese regulators are fighting a losing battle against these other wings of the government. In 1999, China imposed a seasonal fishing ban in the South China Sea, and in 2002 regulators did the same in sections of the Yangtze River. But the continued deterioration of both fisheries only underscores how ineffective those restrictions have been. In response, in 2013 one Chinese scientist proposed an outright 10-year moratorium on fishing in the economically essential Yangtze. This week, Chinese officials signaled they were open to the idea and were even considering a wholesale culling of China's fishing fleet.

While both measures would be a boon to Asia's fisheries, they're only a start. To make a real difference, China would need to demilitarize its fishing fleets and end the ruinous military-funded fuel subsidies that are encouraging unregulated catches, not to mention raising geopolitical tensions. Fishing fleets should be regulated by civilian marine and agricultural authorities, not generals with little interest in environmental sustainability.

Equally important, China should explicitly link the task of reviving and preserving fisheries to the clean water and other environmental initiatives in its economic planning documents, including the government's five-year plans. Doing so would raise them to a national priority akin to cleaning up Beijing's air.

Those priorities could then be extended to trade agreements, including the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) China's currently negotiating with other Asian nations, as well as bilateral deals with other claimants in the South China Sea. The goal should be to make China a leader -- and perhaps even a brand -- in sustainable seafood. With luck, that would buy China not just more fish to eat, but a reputation as a responsible global citizen.

[johndee] 16/8/2016 12:25

And we thought they had cash!

[johndee] 14/8/2016 17:34

So how does this tie in with AFG? Are you posting on the wrong thread?

[bmk1] 12/8/2016 12:27

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[someuwin] 12/8/2016 11:00

He already has - its on his list.

I thought it was dodgy too (hence the thread title) but I have reconsidered and think this is the real deal. The appointment of the new CFO from WCC gives me even greater confidence.

[johndee] 12/8/2016 10:55

I hope TW does not try and cause problems because of the Chinese connection.

[someuwin] 12/8/2016 10:45

AFG mainly supply in China but are expanding globally. i.e last year's USD 15.4m contract to supply Yihe (Ocean eclipse)

This is one of the reasons they wanted to list in the West.

("Aquatic Foods" or the "Group" or the "Company")

USD 15.4 million US export contract secured

Aquatic Foods Group Plc (AIM: AFG), a leading Chinese marine foods and seafood processor and producer, supplying to export and local markets, is pleased to announce that it has signed a significant one year sales contract with Yihe International Corporation ("Yihe"), a leading seafood wholesaler and high volume processor, supplying premium seafood products to the United States ("US"). The contract is expected to benefit the fourth quarter of the current financial year as well as 2016 with the subsequent prospect of repeat business.

...The Group will be supplying Yihe with one of its market leading brands, Ocean Eclipse as well as Alaskan Jack's, which uses a range of different flavoured marinated salmon filets.

[someuwin] 12/8/2016 10:04

Options granted this week exercisable at 50p.

Cash £39m

Revenue £102m

Profit AFTER TAX £14.6m

EPS 12.9p

Dividend of 1.4p this year

[someuwin] 12/8/2016 09:19

Too good to miss.

[rupe1958] 10/8/2016 09:41

New CFO looks like a seriously good appointment, and worth waiting for.
West China Cement made serious money for PIs back in 2010. It's a respectable and well-run company. It has to be good news that the new CFO has come from there. Also with PWC in KL.

[cottoner] 10/8/2016 07:25

st,

Thanks - for future ref to enable direct link from BB, after pasting change to hTTp as per below. (otherwise it gets changed to hxxp)

[stampylong trader] 10/8/2016 07:04

Po Ling - picture of her

hxxp://www.cmtevents.com/speakerprofiles.aspx?ev=100314&

[cottoner] 10/8/2016 06:19

Mentioned in the Daily Mail Market Report

On AIM, Aquatic Foods Group soared as it appointed a new finance director. Po Ling Low joins the Chinese marine foods business with 18 years of experience in corporate finance and investor relations, including at West China Cement.
Aquatic distributes its products, which include snack foods, frozen seafood and seaweed-based products, in around 16 provinces in China. Shares gained 41.7 per cent, or 5p to 17p.


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[someuwin] 09/8/2016 16:04

Yup - there's been plenty of China cons listed on AIM.

But I'm now thinking that AFG may be the real deal.

Certainly West China Cement, where today's CFO appointment comes from was (and still is) a high grade company.

[meganxmas] 09/8/2016 16:01

richard sweet on board as non exec was also non exec at camkids which ended up being suspended ... to be fair to him he resigned shortly before when not happy with what going on. as reminder camkids had loads of cash and decided to pay it all to 3 distributors !!!