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ATV Antonov

59.00
0.00 (0.00%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Antonov LSE:ATV London Ordinary Share GB00B3SHND79 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 59.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

Antonov Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
01/2/2007
18:10
Okay. So if I understand correctly, then even at £50m market cap - we are nearly there - Antonov wouldn't be in the Techmark 100 due to being listed on AIM.

I don't think we can expect the Americans (Ford or GM) to take up the Antonov transmission, if they mix up Aqua Teen Hunger Force adverts and a proton destruction bomb.
LOL!

crystalclear
01/2/2007
17:49
Main benefit (!) of being on AIM is that companies can sail close to the wind regarding legality of dealings and disclosures..... something to be honest I could live without ATV being associated with.... and moving to a true listing would only encourage holdings from larger funds when Market cap. hits the entry level £50m mark (minimum for most funds).
littlebert
01/2/2007
00:21
I think Antonov's market cap (at about 44m*£1) is beating the following Techmark 100 shares SPS (£20m), PYM (£20m), NTX (£30m), DTK (£30m), GBG (£40m), VEG (£43m)

Does Antonov being on AIM mean that they are excluded from the index, or should they enter the index at some time?

crystalclear
31/1/2007
19:00
I know it's all dilution, but quite pleased that warrant holders feel happy enough to convert to shares now and clarify the long term situation.
littlebert
23/1/2007
11:11
....yah, boo sucks MMs - haven't got the bottle to drop it in one go, ay? Get themessage, holders aint selling, and definitely not due to 'panic' tactics....
littlebert
22/1/2007
20:28
Bit early for the MMs to be trying to trap the t10's...... mind you, shouldn't be surprised to see a share I hold given a kicking for nothing :-)

edit - Look, just put it back to 40p now and stop the drip, drip, share price cuts.....

littlebert
19/1/2007
15:18
So, if half the cars are autos, and ATV only received a nominal £20 per car in royalties, we're looking at £20m revenue for a co. that, at £1 a share is only valued at £35m..... on a pe of 10, ATV share price should be (in 2015) £6 - £7. Might just keep hold then :-)
littlebert
19/1/2007
12:14
LB
No. In China manuals are regarded as poor people's cars. Most cars will be autos, unlike Europe. The transmission is drive by wire so butterfly paddles or +/- gates on the lever (or both) can be provided, so Europe will slowly go drive-by-wire too, eg dual clutch - it's happening now.
I think by far the majority will be automatics, a recent 6AT will be a MUST, and why put the old trannies in new designs. The problems are therefor (1) How many of the Geely cars will be old designs? (2) Will Geely meet their sales targets? (eg 2 million 2015) (3) Will they find customers for the (Rover compatible) trannies, eg Nanjing (that bought MG Rover)?

There seem to be good reasons to concentrate on the buy price for the shares and to think dividends rather than sell; though I would blame nobody who joins in the (buy/sell) game of musical shares as the price rises in the years to come, even if they lose seats (as some must) rather than gain seats. Some people will make money but still have less shares than they start with due to the tax man sitting on a few chairs.

crystalclear
19/1/2007
11:42
2 mill : if only 10% are autos, and half of them are ATV based..... permission to smile?
littlebert
19/1/2007
11:37
(



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Mr Li Shufu, Geely's 43-year-old chairman, expects production to quadruple to one million units in 2010 and two million by 2015 (double Mercedes' current output). By then, Geely expects to export 1.3 million cars a year - up from about 20,000 today.

crystalclear
19/1/2007
11:36
Little Bert
We are not far from entry into the FTSE Techmark 100.
I believe we might be in the top 100 companies, but you need to be in the top 90 to ensure promotion into the index.
So share price game playing is quite likely to occur.

However look at the last of the following references ....
.... and note that Geely also plan to sell the transmission to other Chinese car makers.

However Torotrak are in the index and their lawnmower transmission sales are only going to cover directors salaries of around £2 million quid. Something has to give.

crystalclear
19/1/2007
10:57
Ok, Ok, you can turn around and go back up now!
littlebert
16/1/2007
17:57
Footnote: That's more like the size of markdown I expected after recent rises... didn't want, but expected!
littlebert
16/1/2007
12:42
Expected a larger sell-off / share price pullback today given the last few days rise, but hey, not complaining, especially if the uptrend returns later in the week.
littlebert
15/1/2007
18:17
Marius is looking happy!

Antonov won the Toyota infringment case in Duesseldorf, claiming that the Toyota Prius infringes Antonov's CVT patent. However Toyota won a case in Munich which got Antonov's patent cancelled. However the arguement Toyota used appears very dodgy to me.

Antonov's patent still stands in other countries, and I'd like to see it enforced to make Toyota pay the royalties due for the Prius. I'd also like to see the patent reinstated in Germany. Toyota has deeper pockets, but some time in the future, Antonov should have some income and be able to assert their rights instead of being walked all over.

What I'd like to see now is Antonov use the contract with the Chinese to somehow strengthen themselves for a second round with Toyota.

crystalclear
15/1/2007
13:38
Looks like my 120p from the chart will be pessimistic... aint good news flow great? And with £50m mark. cap. fast approaching, funds will be able to come back onboard
littlebert
15/1/2007
13:30
Good lads
Well done Roumen!

The time to production should be a lot less than Honda as Antonov's role with Honda is just IP provider, whereas with Geely Antonov have designed the transmission (and not Geely - Honda are capable of designing their own but Geely are not).

Therefore Antonov should also receive much higher royalties from Geely due to Antonov owning the gearbox design.

crystalclear
15/1/2007
07:52
Could be one of those 'Happy Mondays' I've heard so much about :-)
littlebert
15/1/2007
07:51
Antonov Signs Production License

The Board of Antonov plc is delighted to announce that it has signed a
Production Licence Agreement with Zhejiang Geely Automobile Gearbox Co, the
transmission manufacturing subsidiary of Geely Automotive ('Geely'). This
follows the announcement on 27 November 2006 that Geely and Antonov had signed
Heads of Agreement for the licence, which is for the production of the Company's
TX6 six-speed automatic transmission.

Under the licence, Geely will have the non-exclusive worldwide rights to
manufacture and sell transmissions covered by the Antonov 6 speed automatic
patents and will also receive design support from Antonov.

Antonov will receive both Licence Fees totalling Euro 900,000 payable over the
next nine months and then a production royalty on each transmission produced.

Geely is one of China's leading automotive companies and is listed on the Hong
Kong stock exchange and currently produces around 200,000 cars per annum and
continues to grow strongly. Both companies will be working together to
incorporate the TX6 into a number of models with production commencing in 2008.

Geely have already taken two models of conventional automatic transmission to
production and the Antonov TX6 will be an addition to this model line-up. The
transmission will also be available to other vehicle makers worldwide.

John Moore, CEO of Antonov plc, said:

'I am very pleased to be able to confirm this licence agreement. Geely has a
strong track record in developing transmissions and their experience and
established infrastructure will allow us to bring our technology to production
rapidly. China is a key market for our technology and Geely provides an
excellent customer reference site, which will underpin our commercialisation
strategy in the region.'

Mr. An Conghui, Vice President of Geely Automotive, said:

'Geely is delighted to have secured the Antonov TX6 license which in turn has
strengthened our transmission product range and enabled us to bring to market a
vehicle which will incorporate Antonov technology delivering a compact and cost
effective solution . We look forward to working with the Company closely as we
move towards volume production in 2008'.

For more information, see
www.geely.com

littlebert
11/1/2007
19:10
So, I guess the chart is meaningless unless it's adjusted for changes in the capital structure of the Co over time. [ BTW, the warrants are beginning to look interesting- huge spread though]
mangal
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