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APF Anglo Pacific Group Plc

157.00
0.00 (0.00%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Anglo Pacific Group Plc LSE:APF London Ordinary Share GB0006449366 ORD 2P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 157.00 157.60 158.60 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

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13/11/2015
08:42
Isn't that the point of a bulletin board, that people share their opinions?
rcturner2
13/11/2015
08:31
RCTTurner,

I am off fishing now but just before I go your point is ? You have all day to explain yourself, not forgetting you may be right, but your point, or is just that you have a opinion of your own that you want to share with us ?

bolador
13/11/2015
08:15
Good sector, good company, good price.

APF fails on all 3.

rcturner2
13/11/2015
08:10
RCTurner2
Relative performance is a useful tool for brokers and fund managers who wish to have sectors represented in a portfolio but want to sort the wheat from the chaff in the relevant sectors. I agree they would be "chumps" as you put it if they only used relative strength or weakness as investment criteria but they and I do not do that.

bolador
13/11/2015
07:34
RCTurner2.I take your point about APF being more like a fund than a miner but I have always said the company was in the mining SECTOR as indeed it is described in the company web pages here in ADVFN. As you know APF is a listed company and it does not meet the criteria to be listed as an investment trust or fund listed or unlisted. If you were a stockbroker what would you say if asked by a client what business was APF in and what would say about the factors that affected its share price. I think it is reasonable to say APF is in the mining sector.
Probably that is why the price of coal is of interest to those read this site.
I hope this helps.

bolador
12/11/2015
20:28
Funny that, Neily B said repeatedly he had filtered me. Yet seems to have followed the latest discussion quite closely

Does that mean he's a liar?

Obfuscating non-stop. Cannot name a single comp and believes that this is a mining company without grasping that it invests purely in financial instruments.

This company has a fund of royalty investments. You do not even understand the way the company operates.

Of course people are optimistic. But for the right thing and reason.

You are clearly a lucky-shamrock/rabbit's-foot type investor, fingers crossed that it will all be fine in the end.

If you don't think that I have supported my views throughout with concrete evidence in every case, then you are even more moronic than you appear.

Anyone who has held this share all the way down from 350p to the current 70p does not have a clue about investing.

It's not wasting any more time on you but my appetite for posting on this bb remains undimmed.

ALL IMO. DYOR.
QP

quepassa
12/11/2015
20:08
bolador, apf is far more like a fund than a miner. You state yourself they buy equity stakes in others, remind me what funds do again? APF is staffed by 20 people in suits, they haven't seen a lump of mud in their lives. Royalties seem like bonds to me, with extra volatility.
rcturner2
12/11/2015
20:06
bolador wins by knockout
neilyb675
12/11/2015
20:04
Of course you will be back, QP.

Do not wriggle QP, APF is in the mining sector. They buy percentage mining equity stakes, they buy royalties, they are subject to the price of numerous metals and coal. APF is most definitely not a fund which specification would subject the company to numerous and very onerous regulation and operating obligations. Really! Such ignorance.

Without optimism for the future most people would not invest in anything, if you think that weak then you do not understand the basics of investment.Its not a counter. You do not have any valid arguments to counter, QP.

As to not wasting further time or being back, which is it QP? Cannot resist can you QP ? Good Night.

bolador
12/11/2015
19:38
yawn, yawn, yawn.

so definitively no comps then that you can name.

APF is not about mining. It's a fund. it invests in financial instruments related to commodities. the instrument is highly relevant. that is a basic for you to grasp.

don't worry. the reality mirror is there still. you just refuse to look in it.

there will certainly be a lot to talk about when Paris happens.

is that your best shot as a counter that "things will look up in time"? how weak.

you are too boring, unstimulating and intellectually undemanding to waste further time on.

Must check but didn't I recently spot some ratings action on Whitehaven Coal.

I'll be back.



ALL IMO. DYOR.
QP

quepassa
12/11/2015
19:05
AS you say QP, APF is affected by coal prices. Their sector is hard commodities and mining, the actual mechanism of revenue creation whether by digging or royalty is irrelevant. This is quite simple to grasp, surely, prey even.

My view QP is that you pollute this site and come close to stock knocking for a reason or reasons you will not divulge, despite being asked by many.

As to supportive, commodities are cyclical, things will look up in time.

If a share goes up, good for the shareholders, in reverse not so good. It's a reality and risk common to investors. Why does it bother you so ?

At least the mirrors are gone, chipping away is working.

bolador
12/11/2015
18:53
If relative performance is important to you then you are a chump.
rcturner2
12/11/2015
18:34
Well, the problem with your flawed thesis is that you say the share has held up well in the sector. It is indeed a very small sector.

Prey, relative to which other listed UK companies?

APF say they are the only quoted coal/commodities royalties streaming company listed in the UK. "Anglo Pacific is the only company listed on the London Stock Exchange focused on royalties connected with the mining of natural resources."

So just which are your other UK companies which are the sector comps then?

No doubt you will again obfuscate.

You have nothing to add to the debate whatsoever. You have no views.

Can you at least try to find one thing which is interesting to say about the share or the sector (of one) which is new, original, informative or helpful or supportive, rather than your wearisome self-righteous fist-thumping?

Another investor who cannot handle the reality of this share which has fallen from c. 350p to 70p. A fall of 80% from peak. And the graph continues to look headed firmly south in my opinion.

ALL IMO. DYOR.
QP

quepassa
12/11/2015
16:17
verba deficiunt ad bolador semper.
quepassa
12/11/2015
16:10
Hmmm.

You say the share price has held up very well this year in their sector??

Down by some 50% in 12 months. Get a reality check.

You fail to grasp that what is happening to coal, CO2 , global warming, the slowdown in China, the fossil fuel divestment movement and the Paris summit are all central to the fortunes of APF.

If I were interested in propaganda or media coverage, you are right that one could choose a much bigger stage to air one's views. It therefore follows that I am clearly not interested in propaganda by posting here.

Rather than me going elsewhere, I suggest you should stop reading this bulletin board as the mirror of reality seems to be something you are neither brave nor bold enough to countenance.

ALL IMO. DYOR.
QP

quepassa
12/11/2015
16:07
How eloquently put Bolador, Que passa hombre posts on some of my other share holding pages and can be positive on selective stocks for some strange reason, best known only to him. Strange no one has mentioned John Kerry's comments in the FT that whatever is discussed in Paris won't make a treaty/new law, it only discussions that's all...
djgrantb
12/11/2015
15:51
Verba deficiunt mihi.
bolador
12/11/2015
15:25
bolador, why are you trying to silence people who have a different view from you?
rcturner2
12/11/2015
15:22
Anglo Pacific Group PLC (LSE: APF, TSX: APY) is pleased to announce that it will be publishing its Q3 2015 Trading Update on November 26, 2015.
______________________________________________________

coincides with ex-div day

neilyb675
12/11/2015
15:21
There is little room for commenting on coal on this site, for you say it all QP.
What I and several others, it seems, have come to be tired of is your constant repetition, it is as if you are nervous and afraid that if you do not post and post your message will be lost. As to those mirrors of yours, enough said.

I know of companies that are struggling and I understand their difficulties but I do not knock them. You have chosen APF as your punch bag, bit odd really seeing it's media coverage is so small.

All the major commodities are in sharp decline right now. The world economy is in a parlous state and the price of coal is not special or created in a world of it's own. The price of coal has little to do with Paris or the Pope. Coal will be used until it is no longer needed, the tragedy here is that the rate of investment in renewables will be greatly slowed by the current fossil fuel price crash.

As to the price of APF shares all I have ever said is that they have this year held up very well in their sector.What will happen to the company over the coming years I have no idea, nor have you. A far as I am concerned I have watched the share price from about seven and a half pence.

Most curious is that you have chosen to use this site for propagandising your views on coal, CO2, the Paris summit et al. There are so many dedicated sites on fossil fuels and climate where you could better spend your time.You should be brave and go to play with the big boys QP.

As to the price of coal, it's weak, we know.

bolador
12/11/2015
13:47
you are too naive to grasp fully the concept. And indeed not brave enough to look in the mirror of reality about the coal markets. that is why you have no useful or interesting comments to make about coal.

your ten questions are not genuine questions. they are rhetorical .

perhaps it is you who needs to wake up. ask yourself how much you paid for apf shares and how much are they now? that might give you a sharp jolt and bring you to your senses.

you are concentrating on the wrong thing. be bold and look at the share, not me.

it is fascinating that there are two posters who have called the share right and they are considered the detractors of the situation by investors who have stuck with their holdings. funny old world, innit?

ALL IMO. DYOR.
QP

quepassa
12/11/2015
11:21
"Reality is a mirror walking down the street"

Einstein astounded.

bolador
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