|Angel Biotechnology Holdings
||EPS - Basic
||Market Cap (m)
|Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology
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|knocknock: Inside, not one to be pedantic but the share price went up 33% ( lol) then down 25% so in order to get back to the illusional share price before today's action, will need a 50% rise. Please try to get facts right in future, you are not a closet bull are you? ;;-)|
|the_doctor: jenniferz, like I say you look at a bunch of things, but totally ignore ANY of the positive possibilities
Now, sure, those possibilities have diminished somewhat with some contracts being delayed or now less likely, but you had no real idea about that
As you yourself say, you look at things like the chart - it amuses me how you think the chart on a stock like this is any real indicator of the future
Taking your argument, when the stock was 0.6p, the outlook was fantastic?
It must have been hey, the share price was up and on an upward trend??
Your childish view also misses that often a low price is actually the very best time to buy
Your arguments also fail to comprehend that a series of fundraisings dont mean more are coming. Now, due to the cash flow rate and absence of further contracts yet, I do think a fundraiser is due of course BUT that view is based on a sensible assessment of the finances, NOT just a track record of fundraising ffs!
In keeping with that, IF/WHEN more contracts come in, bringing in more cash and taking ABH to profitability, then cash raising wont be needed.
Your views are backward looking only and miss out many critical fundamental aspects.
You'll make some silly comment, but clearly I've always been aware that contracts werent guaranteed and that if delays occurred as they have, then the share price would fall and further funds would be needed, but it wasnt anything like being obvious as you'd suggest
There was another Jenniferz spreading ignorant doom messages at 0.2p in late 2010. Shortly after, the share price was up 200%
You miss how rapidly a contract or two could turn this around and whatever you say, they ARE perfectly possible.|
|euanmebabe: Well done to the leadership of this company. You have successfully managed to continue to say and do absolutely nothing that could possibly support the share price for several more weeks and instead sat in total silence, thus guaranteeing that the share price is back to where it was before the tiny recent blip and thus opening up the spectre of yet new and spectacular share price lows.
Of course, any attempt as a shareholder to suggest that this is an unacceptable failure to act in shareholders' best interests will rightly be robustlty defended and result in threats of legal action. Keep the good work up and I hope that you succeed in your mission to do and say nothing to support the company that your shareholders own - with enough strength you might be able to sit around silently for long enough for the the share price to reach zero but that would take a lot of skill and fortitude.|
It seems you have a case of delusion and stupidity. I have checked your posting history and the investigation indicates bad news, there is no cure. The good news is that you are 'happy delusional' and content in the belief that a rock bottom share price is a good thing for a stock that you purchased much higher.
A stock that has been in decline for many years and has also been diluted with a number of share issues over many years. Apparently this is a good thing the share price being low or more accurately put, almost on the floor. You having purchased the share at a higher price with the intention one would think that the share would increase in value and not dramatically decrease in value. Apparently this is once again a good thing, because once in a while on the share price journey to the current low level it went up !!! but only to fall lower.
Nothing goes up or down in a straight line!!! however I am wasting my time with you as apparently you are right and my 'logic is off'
With your condition I advise you stay well clear of all financial investments and decisions. If you really must continue to dabble in the big bad world of financial markets please consult a grown up, request an appropriate adult and seek medical advise. A hard hat, a breathig device, a spade and a shovel for the head in the sand technique should also be considered.
ps check the share price...its on the floor and heading lower and I have been correctly 'spouting' that accurate news for a very long time. Ahhh but then apparently you are right and I am wrong hmmmmmm
The tape never lies. The share price really does say it all|
|the_doctor: jennifer, you are talking nonsense, I can prove it
A share price DOES NOT say it all!
Primarily because a) it represents investor perception only and b) investors dont know what goes on inside the company and cannot predict the future
Moreover, if you just look back at the chart, you'll see that at times, it has been going up.
Tell me jennifer - in Q4 2010 and Q1 2011 when the share price was rising, did the share price 'say it all'
Was the price from there destined to keep going up because it was on an upward trend?
Similarly, in late Oct 2010, the share price had been going down and was at 0.19p
Did that 'say it all' as you claim?
of course it didnt!!
A FEW MONTHS LATER IT HAS TREBLED!
your logic IS off jennifer
If you cant agree in light of what I've posted above, then you're too dim to understand|
|the_doctor: re 30992
who is to say holders are wrong?
This is down only slightly from when I bought
My investment rationale - that ABH will soon return to profit and the share price will rise, still stands
ABH has been progressing to plan with that.
They've had more contracts and the plant inspection was positive
something you miss is that if nothing deteriorates at the company, a lower share price simply means it is better value
similarly, have you never noticed that stocks can be volatile.
Indeed, this share dropped before shooting up last time
Runs down are often followed by runs up
Selling out on stops can often be the worst thing to do
I bet there are some investors that take a 20% hit...move to another and get hit by a 20% drop again. Stops can be particularly dangerous where stocks are volatile
2 'The outlook remains good, with few contracts needed to return the co to profitability '
Answer: Not based on fact just wishful thinking
WRONG - that is FACT. Anyone can see from properly looking at the accounts that ABH isn't far off ie. when you take of temporary commissioning costs
3 'their track record shows they can do it'
YES, it does. You're taking my comment out of context
ABH HAS shown it can bring in orders
The issue has simply been that they ran out of capacity to fit in more
That's been resolved, so new contracts will take them BACK to profitability and more|
|jenniferzz: I see some bulls have ventured back onto this thread after banishing us nay sayers to stay here with our opposite view of the share price progress of this company. I did not bother to venture there I left the 'love in' alone and stayed here.
I trust some attention is being paid to the evidence that the nay sayers have been consistently correct in regard of the actual performance of the share price direction. I trust that more attention is turned to those who attempt to silence the nay sayers while proclaiming all great things for the share price
The evidence as ever is in the share price The nay sayers predicted all that before it got to the current state those that like to call us 'trolls' are hypocrites and incorrect about everything.
The share price looks like its punching above its weight to me and my 'troll' opinion is that it has further to fall in time.
The share price will once again say it all.|
|pwhite73: rocket fuel 4 May'12 - 10:41 - 30027 of 30032
"TransGen is a start"
TransGen is a great start but it does not equate there will ever be a great start to the share price. On the AIM today the growth in a company is not reflected in the share price but in the number of shares in circulation. These companies can no longer get bank loads like they could 15 - 20 years ago. Today it's further equity or bust.
I often here people talk about consolidation. Why with 4 billion shares in issue don't they consolidate to make the shares more attractive to institutions? There are two reasons for this:-
Firstly institutions are not really interested in companies like this yet. Until ABH are profitable and/or reach critical mass it is still considered too high a risk.
Secondly when the company decides to raise further equity it has to pitch the placing price where the buyers are. There is no point in consolidating the shares to 50p when there is nobody interested in buying the stock at 50p. Since the credit crunch and the increase in risk aversion financial institutions have all but abandoned stocks like ABH. The investment section that hasn't abandoned them and indeed is still thriving are male high risk high reward penny/sub-penny share punters, namely you guys.
There is no discernable fall off in those who think by owning squillions and squillions of shares they will one day become Warren Buffets when the shares hit £1.00. Indeed the current economic crisis has forced many more to take their chances on high risk high reward penny/sub-penny stocks.
The fact of the matter is that all but the most savvy of short-term day traders who spend from 07:30 - 16:30 staring at their computer screens will lose their money. If you gain on one stock you will certainly lose on the other for their only a handful of market makers playing this game. A bit like a rigged casino table. The house will allow you to win a few times to lift your spirits and keep you gambling but in the end you will lose overall.
If fresh capital is injected into a stock on the basis of an RNS there is a brief rise but then the computers (and they are computers not people) get to work and start devaluing the stock you have just bought.
I'll stop there for now but in the short and long run ABH shares will lose you even more money but this is not a reflection on the company itself.
ABH as a company has and is progressing as planned.|
|euanmebabe: Of course, the wider market jitters don't help but the current share price is a disgrace and whilst the fact that it even got to these levels is shameful it is even more shameful that the company and its "advisors" are not prepared to try to do anything about it.
The company could easily have raised funds at a much a higher share price IMHO and the share price would be a lot higher than now if a sensible approach had been taken to the market. Ultimately, that is all water under the bridge now but the continued failure of the company and its "advisors" to do anything to rectify the situation is inexcusable in my book and I fail to understand their reticence to try and sort this mess out. How many more people do they want to sell and how much lowere do they want the share price to go? Here was me thinking that that the aim of a company was to encourage buyers and provide share price growth.|
|euanmebabe: Perhaps others will FINALLY agree with me that this company needs to get its act together in its approach to the market and its share price. It appears that the company's "advisors" advised it to:
a) Announce a heavily reduced placing at an EGM
b) Release a weak Cramlington RNS that is ineffective due to the announced placing
c) Continue with this placing as planned
d) Then release a good contract a few days later which is ineffective due to the placing
End result: a totally stuffed up share price that doesn't even rise on the back of a good contract.
The "advisors" behind this, presumably Hybridan, need to be told to sort this mess out or they should be sacked with immediate effect. We don't even know why the company needed this extra money so urgently. Even an imbecile could see that the following strategy was the right one:
a) Wait for the AGM to allow them to place more shares later in the year at a higher price if still required
b) Release a positive update about Cramlington
c) Release today's contract news
d) Explain why funds are then required and carry out a properly planned fundraiser at that time at a much higher price
End result: a much higher share price than now and happier shareholders although of course Hybridan would not have got their money for sorting out the heavily discounted placing amongst other money that I am sure has been made by certain people on the back of this fiasco in recent weeks.
This pattern of moronic behaviour (in terms of share price and shareholder value) has happened several times over the last year and it has reached the stage where it is no longer satisfactory to hide behind these supposed "advisors". Get rid of them and get someone who actually cares about the share price and the company they work for. This is a total disgrace and everyone involved should be ashamed as they battle to sort this farce. I know that I would be ashamed and would be doing all that I could to rectify this situation.|
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