Avi Global Share Discussion Threads

[trojan] 30/8/2005 11:25

Daisy.

I was registered with the group but have sinced changed ISP can you give me the email to send my updated details too please?

[gazzastrip] 30/8/2005 10:45

Cheers

i look forward to hearing something then and hopefully be in a position to try to reclaim my losses!

Happy to assist the group if required.

[daisy777] 30/8/2005 10:08

Morning Hobo.

[hobo66] 30/8/2005 09:58

Just picked up on this thread after a while. The AAG has my support too.

[daisy777] 30/8/2005 09:54

I'm not in here often these days. Gazza, your registration is still valid and the report is ongoing. There's no other news at the moment.

[harry punter] 15/8/2005 22:18

i will support any court action or legal complaints to the fsa -i personally believe the directors should all be disqaulified and crilly struck off as an accountant

regards harry

[gazzastrip] 15/8/2005 22:09

I registered with the action group and have heard nothing.

I know it was a long shot,but can someone confirm whether there was any progress or did it wither and die?

[blue tooth] 17/6/2005 15:32

yeah - Sony rescued the team working on Heavenly Sword

[harry punter] 16/6/2005 07:50

anyone have fresh news please punters ? --regards harry

[jiggle] 08/6/2005 13:08

yeah noticed that too folks, didn't think anyone read this thread anymore, just shows you, we haven't forgotton and to be very very sure, we have not just rolled over.

I've been on to the DTI again, but not having much luck getting a reply right now, the lady that was the contact seems to have left the building! (conspiracy theory can be inserted there if you like)

It's astounding that Sony actually registered the trademarks for Heavenly Sword in January (sorry no link to hand), so, that's just about 10 weeks after we were "legally"(?) robbed.

Now Sony are pushing this game as one of their flagship products.

Did they think 5 months, was enough time, to let us move on and forget about losing thousands (times thousands of people)?

surely a deal was on the table before the shares were suspended, things just don't move that fast. If that's the case, then JAM could have been sold for much much much much more than the San paid for them - do we know how much yet? Don't think so.

No doubt they all have a very nice explanation of what happened and why, blah, blah, blah, it's all phoney though, let's face it, it's just a manipulation of the law; it doesn't take a genius to work that out.

Incredible, and there is work afoot to keep this in the attention of various parties.

A message will be posted here with more info over the coming days/weeks.

Hope you're all well, I'm pretty much out of the markets all together now, I took a severe beating on this one, and I just can't afford the risk of being shafted again; especially in the current crazy economic climate.

[harry punter] 26/5/2005 12:59

i am not registered although some of my friends are -- john adams my voice piece if you like is with charles stanley and he accounts for aprox 5%-6%--he will support you -- daisey has already spoken to john -

regards harry and the boys in dark glasses

[daisy777] 26/5/2005 12:52

Ditto rdpounder, this should still be pursued.

[rdpounder] 25/5/2005 16:27

I have it on good authority that AGSAG has been working very hard behind the scenes and an update will be issued shortly to all those who are registered (well over 200 members now)

[rawli] 24/5/2005 11:45

EX ARGONAUT TEAM SAVED BY SONY
By Paul Devlin
Posted: 24/5/2005 at 09:49:42 GMT

Next gen title in the works...


A team of British developers has risen from the ashes of Argonaut Games to produce an exclusive title for Sony's PlayStation 3.

After losing their jobs when indie publisher Argonaut collapsed six months ago, Tameem Antoniades and his fellow coders dusted themselves off and formed a new company, Ninja Theory.

Without a deal but unperturbed, the team began working on a prototype of martial arts epic Heavenly Sword at its Cambridge Studio, according to BBC News.

But the hard work paid off, when Sony picked up the next generation title and even highlighted it during last week's E3 launch of the PS3 in Los Angeles.

Antoniades said: "The future is bright for us now, whereas a few months ago it was very, very grim.

"For a moment I started to lose hope."

But with a Sony publishing deal now in place, the future is decidedly rosier for Ninja Theory.

Antoniades added: "We had the balls or the stupidity to do what we did but it so nearly didn't work out."

Heavenly Sword should by finished by late 2006, with a release date to be confirmed.

[rawli] 24/5/2005 11:45

EX ARGONAUT TEAM SAVED BY SONY
By Paul Devlin
Posted: 24/5/2005 at 09:49:42 GMT

Next gen title in the works...


A team of British developers has risen from the ashes of Argonaut Games to produce an exclusive title for Sony's PlayStation 3.

After losing their jobs when indie publisher Argonaut collapsed six months ago, Tameem Antoniades and his fellow coders dusted themselves off and formed a new company, Ninja Theory.

Without a deal but unperturbed, the team began working on a prototype of martial arts epic Heavenly Sword at its Cambridge Studio, according to BBC News.

But the hard work paid off, when Sony picked up the next generation title and even highlighted it during last week's E3 launch of the PS3 in Los Angeles.

Antoniades said: "The future is bright for us now, whereas a few months ago it was very, very grim.

"For a moment I started to lose hope."

But with a Sony publishing deal now in place, the future is decidedly rosier for Ninja Theory.

Antoniades added: "We had the balls or the stupidity to do what we did but it so nearly didn't work out."

Heavenly Sword should by finished by late 2006, with a release date to be confirmed.

[targatarga] 17/5/2005 10:36

cshwone - didn't we do well. suppose you could try jiggle. he was fairly keen on finding other holders. regards

[cshwone] 17/5/2005 10:12

Anyone know what the hell is happening with AGSAG, since registering my shares I have heard absolutely nothing. Not on here, not by email or by post.

If any of the people who formed AGSAG read this I wouldn't mind being contacted. You have my details.

Also see the old AGM 2003 thread - JAM have reappeared for the PS3!!

[hobo66] 16/5/2005 09:27

HP

I'm with you on this one. It's a disgrace! The cavalry didn't come to the rescue (they the DTI rarely do). If it wasn't for the DTI not prosecuting insiders pre-86 we wouldn't have the absurd regulation we have today but I digress..

[harry punter] 16/5/2005 09:15

hobo-- i am very happy to help give evidence against these directors and bring up further charges -- they should all at very least be disqaulfied as directors

regards harry and all the aggrieved boys and girls who hold argonaut worthless paper

[hobo66] 16/5/2005 09:05

Just caught up on this thread & it looks as though the AG is frozen. With no distribution to shareholders now does anyone know if the DTI are still looking at AGT or is it fair to assume the file is now firmly closed.

[rawli] 07/3/2005 18:51

Received this today :-

Dear Mr Rawlinson

ARGONAUT GAMES ORD GBP0.01

We write with regard to your above holding and advise you that Liquidators were appointed on 23rd February 2005. The liquidators have announced that no distribution to shareholders will be made.

You may, therefore, wish to apply to the Inland Revenue Shares Valuation office for a ruling that any shares you hold be declared of negligible value for the purposes of a claim under section 24(2) of the Taxation of Chargeable Gains Act 1992.

The liquidators have requested that the shares be de-listed on 31st March 2005. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us by e-mail: [e-mail] or telephone [phone].


Kind regards
Peter Orsi
Manager Corporate Actions Department

[harry punter] 23/2/2005 16:55

thanks jacko i remember your earlier line on this--i saw the weakness and sold my own stock at a huge loss so it wasnt a total write off for me --but some friends and clients are still left holding major holdings through charles stanley ---san was never open and up front and this is why the prudential and the city lost patience with him --with better financial controls and a finance director this could have been avoided --

[bigjacko] 23/2/2005 16:39

Sad to hear, Harry. I've gotta say, this is precisely why I would never invest in Argo, all those times you tried to get me to ;-) I've seen these guys close-up, remember, and I know the business and the industry. It's a sharkpit at the best of times, and a suicide run, at worst.

I have, during the three years I worked at Argo in the early nineties, watched Ronnie (Jez's dad) repeatedly bale the company out to the tune of millions, from his personal funds, when things got tough. He alone help them make it through the rough times (which, all things being said and done, were not usually of Argo's making).

It would seem that situation has persisted, even into public ownership - and while I am saddened, I can't say I'm surprised or shocked. We always used to seem like we were paying for the last project's salaries out of the newest deal's income, and always getting screwed on royalties by publishers, or messed around, squeezed, and forced into tight corners so we would accept cut-throat deals from publishers on new projects.

Plus ca change.... :-(