Agcert Regs Share Discussion Threads

[cjl2112] 24/1/2008 22:56

Say no more thought vog were bad enough.

[8iron] 24/1/2008 22:55

this lot!!

[cjl2112] 24/1/2008 22:53

8IRON- Who are you refering to these or cey?

[cjl2112] 24/1/2008 22:51

8IRON- I think last was a sell trade 19 shows 150k sell. will have a look at recent news and graphs.

[8iron] 24/1/2008 22:51

also never a good sign when your press release page on your web site has the lead story Picture dated 3 years ago!

chelseapaul - have you done the calculation or asking?

[chelseapaul] 24/1/2008 22:50

Anyone here took the time to work out, how much it would cost AGC to 'buy' themselves out of trouble ?

[cjl2112] 24/1/2008 22:49

Yes, just looked at trades, again last trade well below will just have a peep.

[8iron] 24/1/2008 22:48

CJ - if the spread was closer, maybe, but cannot see serious investment coming in here until they close the door a little, especially after dive of over 50! Worth watching though, had it on the radar a while. Did you get into CEY?

[cjl2112] 24/1/2008 22:46

8IRON 50% Down, a spread of 100% and last trade 20% below bid. Looks like another felix.

[maxmarilli] 24/1/2008 16:58

offer 1.5/bid 0.75 and % lost 51.2%?i think we will be back to 1p/1.2 tomorrow....someone offloaded because fed up after such a decline...that doesn`t mean that the share price wlii not recoup some losses....for every seller there is a buyer....mms w`d not take 2 mill if it was dead.....and next week they will sell it for 30/50% more than what they paid.....clever mms.....

[maxmarilli] 24/1/2008 16:39

still in auction and offer back to 1.25.....

[maxmarilli] 24/1/2008 16:24

just as they absorbed the sell they sold to me at 0.9 immediately they went to 1poffer.Do you think they wuold rise it so fast on only 275k for no reason?they are preparing for news and getting stock,imho.unless other sellers comes they will rise again especially if few buyers come in...

[andrbea] 24/1/2008 16:20

seller of 1 mio (vol)

[rammellzee] 24/1/2008 16:00

maxmarilli - you clearly like playing russian roulette! Best of luck fella!

[maxmarilli] 24/1/2008 15:59

topped up at 0.9,what a bargain........director could not buy before any announcement and interims.....u should know that....only mms playing with fear,imho

[rammellzee] 24/1/2008 15:52

Fingolfin - excellent point. If the Directors felt that the company is massively undervalued they would surely be buying truckloads full at these levels. They are not, because they have no belief in the company or their competence in running it.

I am sorry to read that you have lost out here. I was following AGC when they rose to £2, and was tempted to buy the shares at 40p when Sharewatch tipped them. I didn't, but I am not impressed by the way that Sharewatch have not mentioned them since! They have tipped some great shares in the past but they have to own up when they make a bad call...

[fingolfin] 24/1/2008 15:40

Looks bad now, real bad...

[fingolfin] 24/1/2008 14:36

Sand Frog - that article posted about delivery obligations was from last September while they were still in negotiations. The most recent RNS states that these negotiations have fallen through. Therefore they are up sh*t creek at the moment and hence the collapse in share price. I don't see any directors buying at these levels. I bought some of these at 212p but I still won't average down because I think they are finished! Very poor management imo.

[8trader] 24/1/2008 11:06

max.

You are long term so dont be offended, your thread has been invaded
by a well known parasite that uses multiple usernames to pump and dump.
Give it a few hours or days and the thread will resume it's quite life
after he has dumped the stock, he does this on hundreds of threads.

[maxmarilli] 24/1/2008 10:59

I don`t mind what others ramp or deramps...i do my own reasearch,right or wrong.I just checked their website and found a web tv link about agcert.Go and listen especially the boardroom Q&A.Very detailed explanations about market,process and future of agcert.Don`t know at what stage /date was filmed,but it is surely impressive to me.....especially when mentioning other markets like china,usa and india.IF and i stress IF,they sort out their supply of cer it will go up very sharply...

[8trader] 24/1/2008 10:58

I would say looking at the online limits it's looking dire !

15k v 750k.

It's always wise to try and pump and dump with favourable limits,
that way if anybody does buy it moves the price, all that will
happen here is the overhang will reduce ever so slightly, if they
can offer 750k online then in truth there is probably at least
5 million shares on offer.

[8trader] 24/1/2008 10:54

He's spamming numerous penny threads with this pump and dump !

Sand Frog used to post as motivetv/powertalker/sandrabaac and
plenty more.

He currently uses 3 usernames, one premium and 2 standard names
to pump and dump which are sand frog and gearing 9.

Be warned, he will dump very quickly.

[sand frog] 24/1/2008 09:52

max another small trade through onplus... looking good now..

[sand frog] 24/1/2008 09:51

Kemche, they are showing big trading losses and have had to re finance in order to move forwards, another cut and paste below put shows that their last cash raising was done at a 22x times premium to the current share price

) Debt rescheduling

The Company has agreed to repay a convertible loan note originally issued to
Laurus Master Fund Ltd, which was due to May 2008. The Laurus note was replaced
with a new note to certain affiliates of Laurus due half in March and half in
May 2009.

In addition, the Company has also agreed to a further credit facility of US$7
million, draw down being subject to certain conditions.

The loans will be secured and are convertible into equity at a price of #0.255,
a premium to the average closing price of the Company's shares for the five
business days prior to this announcement trading levels.

In addition, there will be warrant covering 150% of the total investment amount,
being the principal of both the original and the new loans, two thirds of which
are exercisable at a price of #0.255 and one third at #0.40. The repayment is
subject to shareholder approval and finalisation of the transaction with the
Trading Counterparty mentioned below.


They have Euros 27 mill in the bank , debt approx 18 mill.

And are facing fines (big ones) if they do not get their delivery quotas fullfilled, it all hinges on this...In reality its early days a young company that since the IPO has burnt mega cah and made little, the question is do you or i or the mkt now think this is a turnaround or an insolvency situation.

Its dicey but any positive news re deliverys and the share price will transform..

I genuinely believe in todays political environment AGC will survive, if they were making baked beans no way, but their not its the hot topic on all governmental agendas...And to be seen to be being pro active means brownie points.....

AGC will pull through..