Griffin Mining Share Discussion Threads

[zooman] 24/4/2024 23:35

Rose buying a property having renovated and selling is business idiot. You're just too stupid to understand that.

[alangriffbang] 24/4/2024 21:47

phillis go on now you haven’t got four friends most people absolutely detest you with me being no 1 on the list,

[theapiarist] 24/4/2024 19:27

That was a real beaut, Alan. Later than usual but well worth the wait.

Particularly enjoyed "even by my standard I think rose is mentally gone".

[phillis] 24/4/2024 19:14

The house nutter arrives on cue

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 19:13

"Why You Want More Carbon Dioxide"
(the benefit to metabolic processes)

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 17:34

Zoo is the gaffe that keeps on gaffe-ing.

[theapiarist] 24/4/2024 17:26

Not bragging JPPP, at least not on my own account.

Now a log cabin with hot tub. That could be interesting. But you need electric for the heat pump and I'd prefer to be somewhere remote.

[jppp] 24/4/2024 17:23

Steady on the A! No bragging, interesting to share what we've learnt. I need 7 Tesla Power walls, at £10k a pop. so I was asking Sage if he'd found a better battery, as Sage seems quite switched on (sorry). Getting green energy right is really quite interesting and if there is better batteries for less, I'll buy them! I concluded Tesla because they hold power better and the battery degenerates slower than all others. No point paying £10k and half its capacity has gone in 4 years...

so while I'm rambling... air source heat pumps do have their uses - hot tubs is/was my need. They're not good enough for central heating or really hot water, but they are good for "more than tepid" which I needed for several hot tubs at a log cabin development.

another interesting day on planet GFM.

JPPP

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 16:55

I am not at all hypocritical about my self interest. I
don't think that you understand the meaning of the word.

I called you out for your profiteering because you pose
as a caring, sharing altruist. That's hypocrisy.

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 16:51

The most important "greenhouse gas" is water vapour.
Nothing to do with human energy use. Activists are
getting all excited about cow farts now, even though
termites produce more methane worldwide. People really
must be encouraged by state subsidies and regulations
to give up their reliance on termites.

[zooman] 24/4/2024 16:49

Sage, clearly you're the savvy one. :-)Zoo

[zooman] 24/4/2024 16:48

AMT, it just shows everyone what Rose is. That being a hypocrite as well as a troll.

[zooman] 24/4/2024 16:47

Rose so you took advantage. Did you give any of your thousands to the poor or charity? Of course you didn't. You needed the money to buy a woman online. :-)).I buy a house and have it renovated, sell it and make money and Rose ridiculed me. Then he now claims he made thousands whilst poor people lost out and boasts about it..There you have it folks, Rose is a hypocrite by his own admission.

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 16:43

Exactly right. It "would never have stood a chance" without
bribes from the government. I took the cash, you and others
paid, and you are still a believer. I am still getting leaflets
offering me free solar panels and heat pumps, but this time
only if I am on benefits. Environmental regulations on landlords
to force them to fit heat pumps are part of what is driving them
out of the business. Without all this the green energy push would
probably stall. The wind farmers didn't take up the latest offer
because it wasn't generous enough (with your money).

Sensible things that people want don't need pushing by the
state. They never had to subsidise mobile phones, and they
have been saddling cars with taxes from the beginning.

Once again I note that you first restate my position in
extreme terms and then, when I correct you, claim I have
altered my stance. You have previous for this. It's a
bogus tactic and you know exactly what you are doing.

[zooman] 24/4/2024 16:41

I think it's good. :-)

[amt] 24/4/2024 16:19

Rose
Interesting that your opening remark about my very balanced first comment this morning was to state that I always fall for woke nonsense. Now you come up with all that stuff about misrepresentation and straw man nonsense.
Rather than making reasonably argued comments. Now you have been challenged you come up with something more balanced. At least you have left the door open for green initiatives. These would never have stood a chance though if there hadn't been subsidies to get them off the ground. So fortunaly we are now in a position to have these options which wouldn't have stood a chance if your thinking had been adopted.
No swivel on Greenhouse gases and CO2 by the way. Co2 is a Greenhouse gas amongst others.
I should think Sage is highly amused and to get the facts straight you are the one who raised the issue of embarrassing him and not me. You tried to make something out of nothing.

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 16:18

I just hope Griffin are milking the scheme rather than being
its patsy.

[phillis] 24/4/2024 16:16

Bloody GFM RNS!

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 16:16

As for altruism- the Milliband scheme paid me thousands
every year, funded by higher electricity prices for poorer
electricity users who couldn't afford solar panels of their
own. They were paying for Labour's environmental activism,
while I raked it in. Government intervention in markets
always distorts and has unanticipated consequences.

A particularly poorly conceived scheme in Northern Ireland,
the "cash for ash" scandal, cost NI taxpayers £490m, as
people were paid more in subsidy to use "green" fuel in
boilers than the fuel cost, leading to enormous waste as
boilers were run at a profit and the heat thrown away.

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 15:41

I said that I would find it embarrassing to be considered
a climate warmism believer simply because I took advantage
of an economic opportunity. YOU are the one who labelled him.
I don't have any idea whether that embarrasses him. Maybe
he is amused.

[rose_by_another_name] 24/4/2024 15:38

Usual logical fail- you misrepresent what I have said to make
it sound extreme and easier to attack, something you have done
previously. It is called the "straw man" argument in the lexicon
of invalid logic. I am thereby invited to repeat my earlier
statements, ad infinitum probably, as you continue to distort
them.

My basic theme is that climate alarm is nonsense and it is
causing needless economic harm. If solar and wind power are
economically viable, they will be adopted in a sensible time
frame without all the subsidies and regulation. I have no
quarrel with them as technology and have indeed installed
solar myself. Government meddling in markets is always
damaging.

I don't accept that the science has established that CO2 is
causing climate change. Your swivel to "green house gases" is
noted. Water vapour is the most important one of these. Nor
do I accept that the climate is changing dramatically. It has
always changed over time, and in the seventies the same
alarmists were fretting that we were about to enter a new ice
age. Scotland is still rising out of the sea since the last one,
rebounding slowly from the weight of the ice that pressed it
down. I prefer a warm planet.

[amt] 24/4/2024 15:11

Blimey Rose you do have a strange opinion of people and their motives. Suddenly Sage is labelled as falling in with climate alarmism simply because I thought his approach was worthy of praise.
At the start of this discussion I pointed out that many Green initiatives were already economically viable. Solar and wind in particular. We have examples today of that fact.
I also pointed out that on the balance.of probability global warming through Green House gases is connected. You say it definitely isn't and we should continue burning fossil fuels and forget any Green initiatives like Solar and Wind power which you claim do more harm than good and are not economically viable. Your certainty that you are correct seems to be based on a feeling rather than from any evidence. Seems a very unscientific approach to me. How can you be certain, the answer is you can't.