Cinpart Share Discussion Threads

[mikehardman] 30/7/2010 12:34

AGM approvals received today.

As of Monday 2aug10, this thread will be closed.
Please use the AEG thread thereafter.


Thanks for your interest and postings over the last three years.
I hope to see you on the other thread.

[mikehardman] 22/7/2010 22:57

Folks-
In preparation for the 30jul AGM and proposed change of name and ticker,
I have started a new thread for Active Energy Group (AEG).

[ls lowry] 22/7/2010 21:14

Read it but my stance is EKT a better play with a certainty of doubling the share price as against a hit and miss here high risk at that.

[pmgn] 22/7/2010 13:55

Initiation of Coverage Strong Speculative Buy at 7.25p with a 16p price target

[renewable] 21/7/2010 17:19

A bit blatant LS !!

Share price dipping again.......

[renewable] 19/7/2010 08:59

Why the push into the USA when cash is still needed to be raised each 6months in the UK? A strange blanket approach is being taken here, too ambitious?

[ls lowry] 18/7/2010 21:06

Cinpart is just so predictable losses afgter losses and fund raiing after fundrainig. Dilution after dilution.

[melody9999] 18/7/2010 18:03

I heard CINP speak at an investor presentation last year and the thing I do recall is that 'sales had been slower to convert than anticipated'. I then took this off my close watch list until we started to see a steady stream of orders flow. It hasn't and hence the need for CINP to come back to the market for extra cash.

I see the last placing RNS: The net proceeds of the Placing amounting to approximately GBP1.32 million will be used to support the Company's sales and marketing efforts in the UK and to provide working capital generally in order to build on the progress made to date.

The reality is that PIs investments are being diluted by fund raising to pay salaries for CINP employees.

Needs a step change to get me interested but I'll check in occasionally because the product looks interesting.

[ls lowry] 18/7/2010 12:00

There are a number of companies entering the voltage optimisation market as the competition hots up margins will fall...

[napoleon 14th] 18/7/2010 10:33

Further orders from local authorities will.

That may be why they're announced; not for the benefit of shareholders, but to alert other possible buyers...

Shaeholders are not the be all & end all of corporate life,
tho' reading ADVFN & other BBs might make one think so...

[renewable] 16/7/2010 10:33

Placing after placing, 5pence placing next!!?!

[ls lowry] 16/7/2010 08:02

What did I say funding needed and there is massive dilution now near 19%. Still the compaany is struggling to win significant contracts.

A placing at 7p wont go down well with investors.

[ls lowry] 14/7/2010 19:22

The recent order unlikely to make anything substantial. They woould need loads of similar deals every week to give me any confidence of re investing.

[renewable] 14/7/2010 09:54

Low i'd say, I reckon SEC take a good chunk !!

[reckless_rat] 13/7/2010 20:53

What's Cinpart's margin on these orders? It's not making or selling or installing these units just clipping a 'royalty' out of the middle. 10% maybe??

[ls lowry] 13/7/2010 16:02

To announce an order worth under 400k is pathetic...


"Cinpart, which supplies cutting-edge voltage optimisation technology to reduce
the energy consumption and CO2 emissions of commercial buildings, is pleased to
announce that it has secured new sale contracts for its voltage optimisation
product, VoltageMaster, together worth approximately GBP375,000."

Thats a sale not profit. Shows how desperate management are!

[napoleon 14th] 06/7/2010 18:00

I must admit, 1 for 20 looks a total w*nk. I agree with 655.
It looks like a broker/coy secretary just want some work to do?!!!

If needs must, why not distribute warrants @ 7.5p instead?
Date them for once the US arm is up & running, say 2012,
& they could then be a treat...if hard profits, eps & +ive cashflow are there.

I feel that if they are on target with those projections, then this could be a low in the share price we might not see again....but why the bonus shares antics?
The costs of that come out of our would-be profits.......& sweet FA else!

I'd like to know how their "factory pre-open" US marketing is going since they can make this stuff in SEA. P'raps some1 gave them a whacking grant in US on the grounds of energy conservation, job creation etc. Needs active PR if poss.

If they pull this off, what price a US T/O bid in the future?
I hold ZOO & SRT, so can keep these for the ride.
It's not beyond a well-run CINP to do the same, but when?

[tenerife] 06/7/2010 17:41

Mr/Mrs/Ms Lowry. Please don't try to teach me basic maths, and as they're unlikely to pay a divi for sometime, i regard it as a little extra.

[ls lowry] 06/7/2010 16:10

The 1 for 2) has been mentioned a while back. As its the same for everyone its means nothing. More shares more dilution the affect on eps is zilch.

Let me give you an exmple suppose the co pay 100k in a divdend and they distibute it in 100 shares that and there are 100 shareholders that would amount to 1k per share and 1 k per shareholder.

Suoppose they then double the shares in issue equaly as a bonus issue but distribute the same 100k divi.

You would get £500 per share but as you hold double shares your divi would be 1k. Exactly the same as if they hadnt doubled your shares.

Its a con to make it looks like they are giving you something.

[tenerife] 06/7/2010 12:27

I-m surprised that no one has mentioned the 1 for 20 share bonus.

[yespmedc] 06/7/2010 11:06

CINP update document on Stockopedia -

[ls lowry] 05/7/2010 08:06

Another memorandum of understanding this morning yet again but the market wants firm contracts and profits.

My sahre tip EKT is powering ahead lately and the co informed the market today that they expect to beat forecasts by a significant amount.

[reckless_rat] 02/7/2010 09:06

You can understand that Prof Hughes might not want his name associated with that drivel, downgraded or not. I thought Edison was meant to warn you off the rocks not draw you onto them.