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JLIF John Laing Inf

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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
John Laing Inf LSE:JLIF London Ordinary Share GG00B4ZWPH08 ORD 0.01P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 142.60 0.00 01:00:00
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Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
- O 0 142.60 GBX

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Posted at 29/9/2018 09:39 by skinny
JLIF and Bidco are pleased to announce that at a hearing held earlier today the Royal Court of Guernsey has sanctioned the scheme of arrangement under Part VIII of the Companies Law of Guernsey (the "Scheme") to effect the recommended cash acquisition by Bidco of the entire issued and to be issued share capital of JLIF. All conditions to the Scheme have now been satisfied or waived and the Scheme has now become Effective in accordance with its terms.

The listing of JLIF Shares on the premium equity closed ended investment funds listing segment of the Official List and admission to trading of JLIF Shares on the London Stock Exchange's Main Market were suspended with effect from 7.30am on 28 September 2018. JLIF has made an application to the U.K. Listing Authority to cancel the listing of JLIF Shares on the Official List and the London Stock Exchange to cancel trading of JLIF Shares on the Main Market. These cancellations are expected to take effect at 8.00am (London time) on 1 October 2018.

JLIF Shareholders' cash consideration under the terms of the Scheme will be settled or despatched by no later than 12 October 2018.
Posted at 12/8/2018 13:41 by skinny
The last 3 paragraphs :-

"The bid has sparked debate over whether JLIF and rival social infrastructure funds such as HICL (HICL) and International Public Partnership (INPP) were undervalued or had simply priced in the political risk of a possible future Labour government. Their shares have shot up and had their former premium ratings restored since the bid approach was announced.

Hose said Dalmore and Equitix had taken a strong view on political risk that other investors might not share. However, Lovett-Turner believed the sector had become oversold with political concerns blinding investors to the high quality, inflation-linked cash flows the listed funds generated.

‘This was illustrated by HICL selling its interest in Highland Schools PP2 at a 21% premium to valuation, as well as by the offer for JLIF,’ he said. ‘In our view, the events surrounding JLIF are likely to have attracted interest in the listed funds from other major Infrastructure investors in the same way that HarbourVest’s bid for SVG Capital in 2016 led to a wave of interest in listed private equity funds from secondary investors.’ he added."
Posted at 06/8/2018 16:09 by spectoacc
JLG is the unknown - what's it worth to them I wonder. Personally I can't see it - JLIF was valuable for them to sell things to, they'd be selling to themselves if they bought it.
Posted at 06/8/2018 08:20 by spectoacc
@jonwig - find myself as cashed-up as I can remember, having sold HICL (too early), now JLIF, and many more smaller recently.

P/e feels like 1999 - not 2000 just yet, but silly amount of money knocking around, daft multiples, great for sellers of assets but who's going to end up holding the baby? Their 2000 moment will come. (The FAANGS - or most of them, Apple throwing off cash - another good example).

I'm not calling the top - but I am starting to exit things ahead of the top. Commercial property another great example - now priced as if recessions are a thing of the past.

"But the money has to go somewhere". It does, and it is, and that's why it'll eventually result in big falls.

May change my mind next week of course :)
Posted at 01/8/2018 07:16 by spectoacc
Too low?! Hilarious. So why weren't those same shareholders buying JLIF in size up until a week ago, when it was 20% cheaper?
Posted at 16/7/2018 08:51 by riverman77
Nice surprise this morning although trying to figure our what to replace it with. Top 2 candidates are INPP - up around 5% and now on slight premium - or the parent company JLG which is trading around nav. Obviously the latter has more development risk and unclear how JLIF's sale will affect JLG's business model as the asset manager of JLIF
Posted at 16/7/2018 08:49 by spectoacc
If the bid goes through, you'd think at least some of the cash that comes in to current JLIF shareholders will flow to the remaining few listed infrastructure ITs. But I'm wondering if some of the simmilar RPI-linked punts might attract some interest - eg GRIO (on its knees atm, for similar reasons), maybe some of the long lease property co's. Main thing for me is - this mooted bid should end the discounts the likes of HICL have been on.
Posted at 19/5/2018 12:07 by jonwig
@ Spec - I sold HICL but hold JLIF. With hindsight, should have been the other way round!

What all this ignores is the fact that the portfolio renews via sales and purchases. It also ignores residual values on some assets.

Incidentally the latest results indicate a discount rate of 7.74% which would make a difference. Of course, the rate used by JLIF on its assets needn't be the same as the one an investor might use on the share price - personally mine would have been a lot lower until the political hand grenade.
Posted at 19/5/2018 09:02 by jonwig
@ SteMiS - looking again at the original prospectus (Oct 2010), there's a chart on p45 which shows distributions from the original seed portfolio. These show that sub-debt within each project is serviced, and there are also bullet payments of sub-debt principal along the way. There are also some complicating factors:

• inflation indexing isn't complete - one reason why HICL is higher-rated is that it has better protection here.

• some projects are demand-based causing income fluctuations. (M6 toll road has had a difficult history - though nothing to do with JLIF. M40 in JLIF is more stable.)

• some projects have run into trouble - Roseberry Park Hospital in the past year, for example, where there was extra expense which didn't work and effective write-off.

• there is residual equity in some projects, such as the M40 motorway where the remit was to design and build, not just operate.

So, unless I've misunderstood your argument, I think your 'homogeneous' view of the portfolio has too many bumps along the way. Without these bumps, your model does suggest money is left for the investor.

The way I thought about it is to ask a typical question, "What would you pay for an asset which gave you £50,000 pa indexed for 25 years?" Assuming 3% inflation and a 7% discount rate, I get about £800,000.

Or, for a potential investor in JLIF, what would I pay to receive 7p pa for * years with *% inflation and a *% discount rate? With the figures above, it's around the current share price!

[Bit of a rush, hope calcs are right.]
Posted at 29/1/2018 07:09 by skinny
John Laing Infrastructure Fund Limited ('JLIF' or the 'Company'), the listed infrastructure investment company, notes recent commentary regarding the impact of the liquidation of Carillion plc ("Carillion").

JLIF refers to its announcement made on 16 January 2018 in respect of the compulsory liquidation of Carillion. John Laing Capital Management Ltd, the Company's Investment Adviser, continues to work on implementing its contingency plans to replace Carillion as Facilities Management ("FM") provider on the 9 JLIF projects and expects this to occur on similar terms to the existing contracts within the projects. The Investment Adviser anticipates that there will be minimal service disruption, however initially expects additional advisory and transaction costs in respect of the appointment of replacement facilities managers to cost approximately £3 million in aggregate.

JLIF reiterates that it has no projects currently in construction where Carillion is the contractor. JLIF owns one project where Carillion is still liable for any construction defects found on the project, with the construction period having completed over 10 years ago. JLIF reiterates that a recently completed routine defects survey has not highlighted any significant areas of concern.

The Investment Adviser believes that the compulsory liquidation of Carillion should have no material impact on the Company and no impact on the Company's dividend policy. The Company will continue to manage the situation as it develops and provide further updates as appropriate.
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